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  1. Well at least the rust has been shaken off the hammer.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by ajt09 View Post
    rust has been shaken off the hammer.
    Mate, there's no shame in just calling it masturbation.

  3. I was starting to wonder about the 4 team playoff at the start of the tournament

  4. Anyone watching Real Madrid- Ajax?

    Gonna be a great second half. Shame Real has 2 injuries, but I don't think Asensio and Bale made them any worse!

  5. Been a great first half tadic has been the stand out but everyone playing really well for ajax

  6. It's a joy to see young Ajax team of local lads destroy European supergiants once again. I almost got teary-eyed watching this.

  7. Ajax-Juventus

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyton View Post
    It's a joy to see young Ajax team of local lads destroy European supergiants once again. I almost got teary-eyed watching this.
    Ajax plays really well, but after the draw, I think they have no chance to pass Juventus. This beast Ronaldo is hungry for up to 6 Champions League. He scored 3 goals at Atletico ... a great player. (https://www.ronaldo7.net/news/2019/0...in-madrid.html, nice site about Cris) I think Manchester City will play with Juventus.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Tyton View Post
    It's a joy to see young Ajax team of local lads destroy European supergiants once again. I almost got teary-eyed watching this.
    And yet again they are amazing. The skill and flair they have, added with running to pressure opponent and passing with each other...

    Love their pre game video also
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Bujakaa92 View Post
    And yet again they are amazing. The skill and flair they have, added with running to pressure opponent and passing with each other...

    Love their pre game video also
    Wouldn't dare to say who's going through next round...

    Ronaldo will be more fit after his injury again, Juve at home, Tagliafico suspended which is going to hurt a lot.
    On the other side, Juve might be scared of the away-goals Ajax can score at any time. Either from their pressing or their countre attack. Don't forget they're strong with set pieces aswell with Ziyech and Schone.

    I doubt Juve will sit back this much as today. You barely saw their midfield with the ball.

  10. I haven't seen a lot of matches this year. The only ones I saw were Real-Ajax, Liverpool-Porto and yesterday Ajax-Juve. But finally I think football is slowly becoming more dynamic in their formations. Other sports like field hockey have been switching formations continous and finally football is following.

    For example with Liverpool you saw that they'd start their outlet (build-up) with 4 defenders. Keita would drop and the wing backs would go forward to make it a outlet with 3 defenders. This is nice, because setting up a press against a back 4 or a back 3 is very different and you can see teams struggle against it. Forcing them to park the bus, playing a 4-4-2 defensively at half court.

    Now the next step for Liverpool would be is to keep switching in their outlets between a back 4 and back 3. Because once Liverpool once was in their back 3 they kept in it. You could go back to b4 by dropping a wing back or by dribbling in with a defender while both wing backs fall back. It will give a lot more opportunities to go past a press. Because honestly, the first 30 minutes of these games are fun, because you can see they do have a gameplan, but after that it's becoming stale. It is always the same.

    Ajax is doing so well, because they're a step further in their dynamic formations than the other 4 teams I've seen playing. They switch more easily from back 4 to back 3. But they also have different formations to build-up. You saw that pretty good against Real in Madrid. In ball possession Ajax also dares to overload any side (left, middle, right). They are used to play in small areas and make little combinations. The fun thing is that their midfield became the players who have to intercept the rebounds, that the attackers can make combinations at 6 square meters.

    Can only say I'm happy that football is becoming a bit less rigid. The players are finally able to switch formations during the game. They're not at a stage yet where they're able to think 2-3 steps ahead and going from b4-b3-b4, but I think the next surprising team in the CL will be a even more dynamic team than this Ajax.

    What are your thoughts? I haven't seen much football at all last years except for the international games, so honestly wouldn't know if it really is something new.
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  11. That ex-Arsenal keeper (wouldn't dare to spell his name...) is having a great game

  12. Anyone got odds on a Porto - Ajax final?
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  13. Would love to see Ajax in the final. They're simply amazing to watch. Their captain De Ligt is the real. All the big teams will be fighting for his signature come summer

  14. Quote Originally Posted by lxl Ra lxl View Post
    Ajax is doing so well, because they're a step further in their dynamic formations than the other 4 teams I've seen playing. They switch more easily from back 4 to back 3. But they also have different formations to build-up. You saw that pretty good against Real in Madrid. In ball possession Ajax also dares to overload any side (left, middle, right). They are used to play in small areas and make little combinations. The fun thing is that their midfield became the players who have to intercept the rebounds, that the attackers can make combinations at 6 square meters.
    Ajax are a joy to watch, but I'm not sure if tactical innovation is making the difference for them. I think it's mostly automatism/muscle memory in decision making. It's a group of mostly young players who have been playing together for years and years always in the same system. It's plausible they can just do some things better than elite superclubs with their constantly changing squads. They don't "think ahead", they just do the same thing they've done a million times with the same 3 teammates who they know since they were 12.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Tyton View Post
    Ajax are a joy to watch, but I'm not sure if tactical innovation is making the difference for them. I think it's mostly automatism/muscle memory in decision making. It's a group of mostly young players who have been playing together for years and years always in the same system. It's plausible they can just do some things better than elite superclubs with their constantly changing squads. They don't "think ahead", they just do the same thing they've done a million times with the same 3 teammates who they know since they were 12.
    Good point, but you do need exceptional talent in the same generation to be able to form that. Basic guideline is often that you want 1 player from the youth to grow into the first team. You will need an exceptional generation to already have 3 players moving together to the first team at the same time. If it doesn't happen the older players get poached by the big clubs before they can connect with the new players.

    This is the advantage top teams get. They can hold players longer and grow into these automatism, because they can stay longer together as a team. Plus, once you're older you can train more and create these automatisms faster, you're smarter, tacticly more developped... Don't see why top teams wouldn't be able to create these automatisms in 2 years which youngsters have to create during their whole development.

    Going back to the tactic side. If you are together for longer and do have that connection it is easier to become tacticly fluid and create automatisms. Simply because tactic is a way to solve problems. Personally I don't think there's much difference between tactics and automatism, except one might be more macro level and other micro.
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  16. Wow this Ajax team

  17. Get him off Jheez shouldn't have even been allowed back on what were the spurs medical team playing at there.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by dilakh2 View Post
    Get him off Jheez shouldn't have even been allowed back on what were the spurs medical team playing at there.
    Exactly! Wtf are they playing at!
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    Exactly! Wtf are they playing at!
    Kudos to Vertonghen for taking himself off there but he looked like he was concussed straight away like he could throw up at any second. Poor from spurs medical team and the officials.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by dilakh2 View Post
    Kudos to Vertonghen for taking himself off there but he looked like he was concussed straight away like he could throw up at any second. Poor from spurs medical team and the officials.
    The referee clearly asking them if he was fit and then after five seconds that happens, needs to be a serious look at their decision making there. Don't think they had Vertonghen's best interests in mind.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by ninjaskill View Post
    The referee clearly asking them if he was fit and then after five seconds that happens, needs to be a serious look at their decision making there. Don't think they had Vertonghen's best interests in mind.
    Pochetino included!

  22. Genuinely believe Ajax could actually win the champions league lol

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  23. i see there kids are giving zero fucks to who thay play good on them
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  24. Sounds of the crowd on new Spurs stadium are amazing. Architects deserve a bonus.

  25. Would it actually be possible? Ajax in the finals?

    Crazy to think they've nearly played 60 competitive games already this season.

  26. Amazimg pass with world class finishing. So many strikers would go with left feet there

  27. Fans actually complaining about Lineker & Ferdinand celebrating... tragic bastards lol

  28. Quote Originally Posted by wkdsoul View Post
    Fans actually complaining about Lineker & Ferdinand celebrating... tragic bastards lol
    The most tragic thing about that video is that Lineker can't celebrate goal for more than 3 seconds because he has to tweet.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Tyton View Post
    The most tragic thing about that video is that Lineker can't celebrate goal for more than 3 seconds because he has to tweet.
    gotta drive that brand...

  30. Too bad... I honestly liked Ajax and Liverpool the most this season and thought it was gonna be the final.

    Ajax has done exceptionally well this season, but Ajax did not play their game anymore in the second half. In ball posession they just couldn't do their thing anymore. I don't know exactly why, but could be because they're tired with ~60 games played this season, because of arragance going into the 2nd half. Who knows?

    The problem was that Ajax couldn't press that well, while it usually is their strongest point. But you saw that Spurs figured it out by playing 1-2's to get out of the press. They did it the whole time at the FB's and in the middle of the box. 1-2's great against this kind of press where everyone runs in and puts their feet in if the defenders are a bit too late to press.

    Was kind of shocked Ajax couldn't handle the long balls, while this season it seemed they did manage to handle it well.

    Ajax kind of missed the rapid speed of Neres (as substitute or from the start) and Magallan is always a disaster waiting to happen. He is always related to goals against and the losses of Ajax this season.

    I might sound like a bad loser, but I am not impressed with Spurs. I find them pretty predictable. I think Liverpool should win the finals.

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