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    The club is recognised as one of the most decorated in world football with 18 League titles to their name.
    They also have 5 European Cups and several domestic trophies.
    Despite struggling for the best part of the last 20 years,the atmosphere is at an all time high with new owners and the return of Kenny Dalglish, the clubs most famous player.
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    Last edited by Steve*; 30/04/2011 at 12:36 AM.

  2. Allright, i'll start off (Unless someone beates me before i'm finished with writing this) .. Andy Carroll was way to expensive, He's never near being worth £35 mill . They could have gotten a quality striker for that sort of Money.

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    Personally i think Carroll is overrated
    Scruffyuk and albertsk like this.

  3. Its hard to know,i reckon he will do a good job for us once he settles in but i really think 35 million was too much. Maybe 15 or 20M but i wouldnt have payed more than that. On the plus side though Suarez looks like hes settling in well.

  4. First Point. I think if we keep Carroll for the long term (talking till he hits his 30's) then we'll get the best out of him and through that, we will get our value for money. Strikers peak in the mid twenties so he's not going to peak for another 4-5 years and we've already seen what he can do at Newcastle so I think he WILL be worthy of the 35mill spent on him, liverpool fans just can't be too hasty and expect big things straight away and we've got to look at the bigger picture.

    Second Point. We have seen that these new owners at the club seem to have their head screwed on and will do the sensible option with any decision they've come to and so far they've been nothing but positive for example allowing collomi (spelling- scouting chief) and clarke joining the coaching staff. I think they will offer dalglish a contract but I don't think they will do it until a league position is more or less secured. As sky sports pointed out today, we've gained 20 points from the last 10 league games which is obviously brilliant but in the remaining 8 games, anything could happen so I don't think we should tie someone down incase it all goes wrong - which I doubt would happen, but stranger things have happened.

  5. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
    A pretty cool guy.
    As I posted in the other thread, 4 points off Spurs, and we've still got to play them. Could work well!

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Ride The Walrus View Post
    As I posted in the other thread, 4 points off Spurs, and we've still got to play them. Could work well!
    They've got a game inhand though.

  7. Tom Werner actually wants to expand Anfield, wich i'd personally rather want than having a new stadium. 'cos we all love Anfield.

    Back to Carroll, I know we're not supposed to expect anything from him yet, but i think his price was WAY to high. Look at Suarez. Quality striker for £21 mill. And some think that was expensive. I don't think Carroll is worth more than Suarez, sorry to say.

  8. Danny's Avatar Danny
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    Spurs also have to play City, Arsenal & Chelsea..

  9. Bowen91 : True, but who would you rather have than Dalglish? I mean, look what he has done to the team already! I think he can do great things in the long run. Give him some money to strengthen all areas needed, give them some time to play together and we will be challenging for the title once more imo.

  10. I say give Carroll time. He's just come back from injury, and he's had to come back form injury into an entirely new setup. He has to learn how his new team mates play, so that he can work himself into the scoring positions that he was able to get into with Newcastle. As for the price tag, yes it was a bit much, but if he comes good, how many of you will be saying it was money well spent?

  11. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Spurs also have to play City, Arsenal & Chelsea..
    Our hardest is Arsenal away, and with our current attack, we could destroy their defence tbh.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Ride The Walrus View Post
    As I posted in the other thread, 4 points off Spurs, and we've still got to play them. Could work well!
    I really hope it does.
    I have a question though. Going by last years UEFA seedings England gets 4 CL spots and 3 Europa League spots.Is this still the case? Like i know Birmingham will get a spot for winning League Cup but if a top 4 team win the FA Cup does 6th place get Europa league?

    Edit:
    By no means do i think that Carroll will be a flop, i know hes a good player but i think that 35M is just too much for him,even with his youth.

  13. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
    A pretty cool guy.
    Carroll actually played well...

  14. I think Liverpool may sneak into the top 4

    were they belong

    as you cant beat Anfeild rocking on a CL night

  15. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
    A pretty cool guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve* View Post
    I really hope it does.
    I have a question though. Going by last years UEFA seedings England gets 4 CL spots and 3 Europa League spots.Is this still the case? Like i know Birmingham will get a spot for winning League Cup but if a top 4 team win the FA Cup does 6th place get Europa league?
    I think the runner up does.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by timsau View Post
    I say give Carroll time. He's just come back from injury, and he's had to come back form injury into an entirely new setup. He has to learn how his new team mates play, so that he can work himself into the scoring positions that he was able to get into with Newcastle. As for the price tag, yes it was a bit much, but if he comes good, how many of you will be saying it was money well spent?
    Okay, i might have exaggareted a bit when i said he was overrated, but £35 mill on Carroll was way too much. I know we've gotta give him some time, and i am confident that he will do a great job. But he'll never be worth that much money. But on the other hand, we needed a striker fast. But i think he was a good purchase though.

  17. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokopop View Post
    Okay, i might have exaggareted a bit when i said he was overrated, but £35 mill on Carroll was way too much. I know we've gotta give him some time, and i am confident that he will do a great job. But he'll never be worth that much money. But on the other hand, we needed a striker fast. But i think he was a good purchase though.
    You've got to pay over the odds to get good English talent, otherwise you won't get anywhere.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Ride The Walrus View Post
    Our hardest is Arsenal away, and with our current attack, we could destroy their defence tbh.
    Suarez, Carroll, Kuyt, and Gerrard

    VS

    Almunia, and Squliacci



    Dont remind me

  19. oja20's Avatar oja20Premium Member
    Simmer down and pucker up
    Hoping you boys get top 4, the real top 4 Chelsea Utd Arsenal 'Pool will the be back! Dont want these new teams city and spurs there!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Ride The Walrus View Post
    You've got to pay over the odds to get good English talent, otherwise you won't get anywhere.
    I know, but you could have gotten something better (Maybe not english) for that kind of money. Or even 2 quality players. Liverpool isn't Chelsea or Man City (No Offence) who pay really high amount of money on one player. But what's done is done, i think he'll be great with Suarez.

  21. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
    A pretty cool guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chokopop View Post
    I know, but you could have gotten something better (Maybe not english) for that kind of money. Or even 2 quality players. Liverpool isn't Chelsea or Man City (No Offence) who pay really high amount of money on one player. But what's done is done, i think he'll be great with Suarez.
    On deadline day?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Calum View Post
    I think Liverpool may sneak into the top 4

    were they belong

    as you cant beat Anfeild rocking on a CL night
    Being realistic i cant see us making top 4 this season I just dont see us picking up 7/8 poinths more than Chelsea or City in the last few games.
    We will be back next year though

    The reason i asked about the seedings is because when i win it on fm 6th place get the spot,not the runner up. But im not taking fm for granted and it may be a problem with the game.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by oja20 View Post
    Hoping you boys get top 4, the real top 4 Chelsea Utd Arsenal 'Pool will the be back! Dont want these new teams city and spurs there!
    I agree Top 4 is an exclusive club

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  24. i hope we sign a left back and two good wingers in the summer

    you will see a better liverpool next season

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Ride The Walrus View Post
    On deadline day?
    Well, like i said before, they needed a striker fast, so i understand why they did it.. But i still think it's too much money. But there wasn't really much time left for negotiation.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by chris22 View Post
    i hope we sign a left back and two good wingers in the summer

    you will see a better liverpool next season
    What do you make of the rumours about Baines?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Steve* View Post
    What do you make of the rumours about Baines?
    class left back carn't see everton selling to us

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Steve* View Post
    What do you make of the rumours about Baines?
    Would be a good signing. But i think we're the last they'll sell him to.

  29. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
    A pretty cool guy.
    Fabio Coentrao pl0x.

  30. what about criscrito from Genoa?

  31. I dont think they would want to sell either but if there as stuck for cash as i believe i think he will go if an offer comes in. Will be either us or United that go for him and back up would be Coentrao for whoever misses out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calum View Post
    what about criscrito from Genoa?
    Kenny really wants a wing back that caan dribble up the field and whip a sweet cross in for Carroll,dont think Citrisco fits the bill....

  32. Quote Originally Posted by Calum View Post
    what about criscrito from Genoa?
    Criscito would be a good signing, as he is still young.. Might be stupid, but what about Ziegler, who Liverpool were rumored after, when Woy still was Manager? Never seen him play, so idk if he's good or not.

  33. If Baines joined United though he would be 2nd choice to Evra

    i dont think he wants to be on the bench every game

  34. what wingers would you like us to sign in the summer
    id like us two sign Eljero Elia and Alexis Sanchez

  35. Sanchez would be a quality signing, but Udinese want £30 mill for him. Idk if Kenny is willing to give them that much. Elia was good at the World Cup, but haven't really heard of him since. He's out in the cold at HSV. Might be another flop, like babel was (Still sad that we sold him)

  36. Ride The Walrus's Avatar Ride The WalrusPremium Member
    A pretty cool guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by chris22 View Post
    what wingers would you like us to sign in the summer
    id like us two sign Eljero Elia and Alexis Sanchez
    Sanchez=Walcott 2.0
    Elia=Prefers United.

    Arda Turan for me. He wants to join, and he kicks ass. Wouldn't cost the world.

  37. I think Adam Johnson and Elia would be good signings as they have the pace and crossing ability to set up suarez and carroll

  38. We still got Kuyt, he's still pretty good for the next season or two. So it's mainly the Right Wing we need to strengthen IMO.

  39. Quote Originally Posted by Ride The Walrus View Post
    Elia=Prefers United.

    Arda Turan for me. He wants to join, and he kicks ass. Wouldn't cost the world.
    i did not no elia prefers united turan would be good signing

  40. Elia said he would welcome a move to Anfield just to leave HSV.

  41. Id go for Sanchez for 15-20 Million and Arda Turan forr about 8 M. The only reason the 30 million was mentioned was to try scare us off bidding for the player and make him unhappy. Udenise wont get anything near that money for him. I also like the look of Eden Hazard and Gervinho....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokopop View Post
    We still got Kuyt, he's still pretty good for the next season or two. So it's mainly the Right Wing we need to strengthen IMO.
    Kuyt plays best on the right wing? We need left wing.

  42. Crap, got it mixed up >.<
    Ment left wing

  43. Quote Originally Posted by Calum View Post
    I think Adam Johnson and Elia would be good signings as they have the pace and crossing ability to set up suarez and carroll
    and why would City sell Adam Johnson?

    If Liverpool are going to sign a winger in the summer it will most likely be Ashley Young imo.

  44. Sanchez would be a great signing. Turan to, but i somehow i doubt Hazard would join Liverpool, even though i'd love to have him.

  45. I Would Not Mind Liverpool Signing Any Of These Wingers In The Summer
    Sanchez
    Turan
    Elia
    Young
    Downing
    Johnson
    Wright-Phillips
    N'Zogbia
    Chamberlain

  46. Well, i think we need to focus on the Left Back problem first. Konchesky is shite, Aurelio isn't getting any younger and idk about Insua.

    Liverpool has actually been rumoured after Chelsea's Zhirkov. Just doubt that'll happen.

  47. Quote Originally Posted by chris22 View Post
    what wingers would you like us to sign in the summer
    id like us two sign Eljero Elia and Alexis Sanchez
    Ugh, Elia said he'd rather join United. Would like to see Hazard and Marin, can't see Hazard coming though considering Real Madrid's interest. Bryan Ruiz possibly, although he scores more than he assists, cutting in from the right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chokopop View Post
    Well, i think we need to focus on the Left Back problem first. Konchesky is shite, Aurelio isn't getting any younger and idk about Insua.

    Liverpool has actually been rumoured after Chelsea's Zhirkov. Just doubt that'll happen.
    Michal Kadlec is one of our big targets.

    Quote Originally Posted by chris22 View Post
    I Would Not Mind Liverpool Signing Any Of These Wingers In The Summer
    Sanchez
    Turan
    Elia
    Young
    Downing
    Johnson
    Wright-Phillips
    N'Zogbia
    Chamberlain
    The bolded ones I'd like to see at the club for the right price.

  48. *Jones*'s Avatar *Jones*Premium Member
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    Amazes me how people blast the signing of Carroll.

    Yes, we over-paid, but that doesn't mean he's going to be a bad player.
    It was deadline day, what did you really expect?

    Plus, if you look at our January Ins & Outs, i think we spent a grand total of £2.7m, so Carroll cost very little tbf if you look at it from a business sense.

  49. Irish Scouse's Avatar Irish ScousePremium Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by CtPauley View Post
    and why would City sell Adam Johnson?

    If Liverpool are going to sign a winger in the summer it will most likely be Ashley Young imo.
    City might not want to sell him - but he will want to leave at this rate.

    If he is to become a regular for England - which he is capable of - he needs to play regularly, I'd love Adam Johnson at Anfield.

    We definately need a central defender -maybe Ryan Shawcross, or Gary Cahill - although pricey.
    We need a left winger - Adam Johnson preferably - if not Ashley Young.
    A left back along the lines of Fabio Coentrao, and maybe a central midfielder - in Charlie Adam possibly.

    Alot of money to be spent - don't expect us to get all of the positions we need - but should Kenny not get the job, It would be likely the replacement would bring in some ex players - maybe if it was Villas Boas we could get someone like Fernando?

  50. People are missing the point on Andy ,Nesv already said that they would not sell torres unless they got 15 mil more than they had to pay for Andy thats why the Torres to Chelsea deal went down to the wire on deadline day.Is 35 mil to much ask me in 10yrs ,did Fergie not pay 30mil for Rio 10 yrs ago.

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