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  1. Modern Day Legend
    Completely with Rh on Eriksen.

    Not many players I’d want from Tottenham as we’re in a completely different situation to Utd. But the Dane and Son for more quality depth would be the ones. (I do like the potential of Winks too.).

    Love us to throw our hat into tge Eriksen ring this summer the last year of his contract. Sublime, dead intelligent top draw footballer.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Scouseinthehouse View Post
    He’s never been anything like that z and never will be. And it has nottin to do with Mourinho. He’s a flat track bully that has consistently disappeared for club and Country in the real big games.

    For all you’ve mentioned Zidane, I’ll lay good money he’d be one of the first he’d look to replace. Nowhere near technical enough or has the inelligent off the ball movement for his style of football.
    To be fair I thought he was probably the best striker at the World Cup alongside Cavani. Was so impressed with how he stood up to be counted vs. Brazil. I think he has the potential to be one of the best strikers in the world but he needs to start consistently showing it, pronto

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Scouseinthehouse View Post
    Completely with Rh on Eriksen.

    Not many players I’d want from Tottenham as we’re in a completely different situation to Utd. But the Dane and Son for more quality depth would be the ones. (I do like the potential of Winks too.).

    Love us to throw our hat into tge Eriksen ring this summer the last year of his contract. Sublime, dead intelligent top draw footballer.
    Yeah Eriksen under Klopp would be sick, as he has an insane work rate too. Always one of the most KM's covered per season year in/year out. Imagine you nabbed Toby? You'd have a Ferdinand/Vidic regen with Toby & Van Dijk...scary CB partnership. Automatic CL favs. That spine would be too much.

  4. Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    To be fair I thought he was probably the best striker at the World Cup alongside Cavani. Was so impressed with how he stood up to be counted vs. Brazil. I think he has the potential to be one of the best strikers in the world but he needs to start consistently showing it, pronto
    Aw mate. He should be what Drogba was. Seriously. He has every tool. He’s just never had the right attitude and application to fulfill that. Sound when he can out muscle yard dogs the rest of the league. But a completely different story when he has to play football and think against quality opponents.

    Sounds mad given his goal record but a complete waste of talent to what he ‘should’ be. He’ll be 26 next year. When is he going to ‘get it?’

    Bar one mad end-to-end Derby he did turn up, he really has been the easiest CF to defend we’ve faced for a good long time now.
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  5. Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    Yeah Eriksen under Klopp would be sick, as he has an insane work rate too. Always one of the most KM's covered per season year in/year out. Imagine you nabbed Toby? You'd have a Ferdinand/Vidic regen with Toby & Van Dijk...scary CB partnership. Automatic CL favs. That spine would be too much.
    I believe we already have that fast developing with JMG.

    Alderweireld would just be a potential block to Joes continued, rapid development.

    Different situations. He’d be a difference maker at Utd. More a luxury at ours who would doubtless want to be starting.

    If I could chose the perfect CH to add to replace the injury prone Lovren and Matip it would be Pavard and his versatility. He ticks every box we require.
    Last edited by Scouseinthehouse; 02/01/2019 at 02:45 PM.

  6. Ah Lukaku. 15 years ago, he would be bench option for top clubs. Today, there's limited number of players that ticks all the boxes he does. Unfortunately, his tactical side of the game is flat out terrible and that negates most of the positivites he has. Oh, and technically he's just, well, shit.

    I would bite Tottenhams arm for Eriksen and Kane. And not just them. Amazing talents.

  7. How am I racially categorising when they are both from the same continent and we've only ever in our history had one in Park who has been a United great? I made it perfectly clear in my post that Son has the output in terms of goals and plays in a different position namely as a shadow striker or inside forward. I also said that I'd even be sceptical about getting him as we have bags of riches. Don't think you understand how important it is for United to have a player like him commercially and as bad this may sound, it's rare we get the chance to sign one with the quality of Son.

    Eriksen is a great player but United have one of the best midfielders in terms of output in Pogba, admittedly he is more free-role and no.10 even lately. I don't see why we need him, that's not saying I wouldn't take him if it didn't cost the earth. But it will for us to have any chance, especially if we're taking Pochettino anyway.

    I maintain that all this squad needs is a great head coach (not manager in the stereotypical sense), CB who will command the backline and dressing room (Koulibally).

    Apart from that we're fine honestly, lots of talented youth to bring through and playmakers a plenty, no need for Eriksen unless Pogba goes really. He'll give us all the assists and goals we ever need if he keeps up this form.
    Last edited by zzeezzy; 02/01/2019 at 03:09 PM.

  8. You said "he could be our next Park" based on nothing else than both being Asian lol they're literally nothing alike in terms of players. Anyway, Where do you plan to play Son? Martial, Sanchez & Rashford all at LW.

    And I think Poch would potentially play Pogba in the Dembele/Sissoko CM role, alongside a holder (ala Wanyama-Dembele dynamic), if he had Eriksen. They could both interchange too like Silva & De Bruyne, or Lingard & Alli at the World Cup for England.
    Last edited by RhQQ; 02/01/2019 at 03:17 PM.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    You said "he could be our next Park" based on nothing else than both being Asian lol they're literally nothing alike in terms of players. Anyway, Where do you plan to play Son? Martial, Sanchez & Rashford all at LW.

    And I think Poch would potentially play Pogba in the Dembele/Sissoko CM role, alongside a holder (ala Wanyama-Dembele dynamic), if he had Eriksen. They could both interchange too like Silva & De Bruyne, or Lingard & Alli at the World Cup for England.
    Yeah I should of said commercially to be fair, I realise that they are not alike in terms of player. Although they do share some similar traits, Park had iron lungs like no one I've ever seen but Son will give everything as well in terms of work-rate.

    The problem is like you say we're stacked there also, but I'm kind of assuming come the summer that Sanchez will be gone and we'l know by then if Martial is going to stay as well. Even though he has a year left by that point.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Yeah I should of said commercially to be fair, I realise that they are not alike in terms of player. Although they do share some similar traits, Park had iron lungs like no one I've ever seen but Son will give everything as well in terms of work-rate.

    The problem is like you say we're stacked there also, but I'm kind of assuming come the summer that Sanchez will be gone and we'l know by then if Martial is going to stay as well. Even though he has a year left by that point.
    Martial will defo stay. Wouldn't rule out Sanchez staying either as he seems a lot happier, but would preferably like him off the books ASAP or we'll have a Rooney situation; wages outweighing current ability & struggling to shift him. We don't have a sentimental Everton to flog to this time.

    We're not really stacked at #10 mate. Mata & Lingard the only naturals, Mata could easily move on this summer too. I do think we need another CM though, I'm not sure Fred's what we need tbh, but the jury's still out; happy to be proved wrong.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    Martial will defo stay. Wouldn't rule out Sanchez staying either as he seems a lot happier, but would preferably like him off the books ASAP or we'll have a Rooney situation; wages outweighing current ability & struggling to shift him. We don't have a sentimental Everton to flog to this time.

    We're not really stacked at #10 mate. Mata & Lingard the only naturals, Mata could easily move on this summer too. I do think we need another CM though, I'm not sure Fred's what we need tbh, but the jury's still out; happy to be proved wrong.
    Funny after I've bigged up this squad today what are the chances of us now losing tonight vs Newcastle?? Here's hoping we put in a good performance. I think it's Ole's toughest challenge so far even though they are not that good recently at home especially.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Funny after I've bigged up this squad today what are the chances of us now losing tonight vs Newcastle?? Here's hoping we put in a good performance. I think it's Ole's toughest challenge so far even though they are not that good recently at home especially.

    I'm the opposite, not worried in the slightest. Another 3-4 goals please. Rafa will sit in Jose-esque and try make it hard. Get the first before HT and make them come out & half-play, then blitz them for 2-3.

  13. Talks of Alexis starting on the right and Chong in the squad

  14. Manchester United team
    Starting XI: De Gea, Valencia (c), Lindelof, Jones, Shaw, Herrera, Matic, Pogba, Mata, Rashford, Martial
    Subs: Romero, Darmian, Young, Fred, Lingard, Alexis, Lukaku

  15. These lot beat us last year at their place, this will be a test of our character.

  16. Fecking hell calamity Jones playing tonight I see.

    Rashford looks fatigued tonight imo.
    Last edited by Theatre of Dreams83; 02/01/2019 at 09:30 PM.

  17. Has went like I predicted, ideally like to nick 1 before half time. Think Mata slows us down a bit too

  18. thats some game watford are playing in

  19. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    Has went like I predicted, ideally like to nick 1 before half time. Think Mata slows us down a bit too
    Yeah doesn’t suit the press. But Rashford hasn’t been doing it tonight half as much either. Valencia doesn’t get forward enough like Young or Dalot.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    Yeah doesn’t suit the press. But Rashford hasn’t been doing it tonight half as much either. Valencia doesn’t get forward enough like Young or Dalot.
    We have a right wing of Valencia (who won't go past the half way line, and does fuck all these days when he does anyway) and Mata (who has no pace, no power, and just comes in side to play 1-2's in front of Newcastle's block). Taking Young and Lingard out of the side takes a way a lot of running and intensity, I think Rashford, as well as Martial, Pogba etc., need that.

  21. See how good Ole really is now, got to make changes and impact this game. We aren't being quick enough with the ball and not threatening in behind really. Mata got to go don't really understand what his role is, Valencia has been his usual self offering nothing going forward sadly.

  22. this has nil nil all over it

  23. Quote Originally Posted by kitchin75 View Post
    this has nil nil all over it
    My subs would be Lingard/Sanchez, Lukaku and Young. Think that adds enough to win the game

  24. Quote Originally Posted by kitchin75 View Post
    this has nil nil all over it
    This is all Newcastle really wanted from the start, but we've got nothing but ourselves to blame so far. They are a poor side lets be honest, they've got next to nothing even on the break. Probably jinxed it but we've got to win this game.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    This is all Newcastle really wanted from the start, but we've got nothing but ourselves to blame so far. They are a poor side lets be honest, they've got next to nothing even on the break. Probably jinxed it but we've got to win this game.
    All about the subs mate. Need more width down the right. Playing into their hands being narrow.


  26. Fuck off you selfish cunt!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    Fuck off you selfish cunt!
    who what and where

  28. Quote Originally Posted by kitchin75 View Post
    who what and where
    Rashford had both Lindelof and Martial free for an easy shop in space at the 6 yard box and he does that from that angle.

    Lucky super sub Lukaku bailed us out

  29. Rashford has perfected that knuckleball technique. Always troubling the keeper

  30. Shelvey should be off for that!

  31. Great play by Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford on the break there. Subs made a big impact.

  32. Fergie-esque away win. Not vintage, but a solid win at one of the hardest grounds outside the top 6. A lot of football has been played over the last week, intensity levels have dropped a bit understandably and Mata + Valencia in for Lingard + Young takes away a lot of movement and width. Job well done, on to Reading. Hope to see Greenwood and some of the kids.
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  33. Yeah not going to lie the game was pretty bad from both teams but considering everything like amount of games played etc..... can't complain too much.

  34. Agree RH not vintage like the last games but changes and tiredness defo played a factor. Sanchez looked sharp especially on the break. Will defo see a better Sanchez under Ole after getting some match fitness. Extra bonus of Chelsea dropping 2 points for me Lindelof or Herrera for MOTM imo.

    Defo need to rest some players. Darmian, Dalot, Fred, Romero, Grant(bench) Young, Fellaini, McTominey, Lukaku, Sanchez I would give mins to. Youngsters will be a tough one as they have a important game Monday night. Could see Chong, Gomes, Greenwood, Traore, Roshaun, O’Connor, Warren. Expect to see some defenders in the squad as we are getting light at the back.

  35. For the love of god don't start Valencia vs Spurs though, he's totally finished and offers 0 going forward.

  36. For the love of god have Rashford, Lindelof, Pogba, Herrera, Matic, Shaw no where near the reading game!

    Looks like Cahill is joining Fulham on loan and TFM will be sent back due to them having to many loan players already.

  37. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    For the love of god have Rashford, Lindelof, Pogba, Herrera, Matic, Shaw no where near the reading game!

    Looks like Cahill is joining Fulham on loan and TFM will be sent back due to them having to many loan players already.
    Thought Lindelof was one of our better players tonight, think he has been one of the biggest positives this season, especially as it has gone on.

    TFM has had not very good loan spells, hard to know what to do with him now really.

  38. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Thought Lindelof was one of our better players tonight, think he has been one of the biggest positives this season, especially as it has gone on.

    TFM has had not very good loan spells, hard to know what to do with him now really.
    Yeah Lindelof has been very good this season and only getting better. Rondon is no joke. TFM should stay and cover CM, CB, RB. He’s still a top talent with big potential! He’s played well tbh on loan given a run. Got injured at Palace then Bisakka has been fantastic. Fulham was unlucky with management merry go round. Had very good games against Chelsea and City at RB which isn’t his position.
    Last edited by Theatre of Dreams83; 02/01/2019 at 11:22 PM.

  39. RB Leipzig saying they'll have to sell Timo Werner in the summer, we should definitely be in there in my opinion and maybe even as a replacement for Lukaku. I know he has poached a few goals, but I still have my doubts if he'll be able to do well enough in this system. I guess we'll see from now until end of the season anyway.

    If we start Valencia against Spurs then that's a major blot against the Ole reign so far, even if we win! The guy is a total passenger. Mata messed this system up as well, he didn't offer any width at all on that right, it made everywhere else so congested.

  40. Don’t need Werner. Rather start Rashford and keep Lukaku.

  41. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Absolutely no interest in Werner. We should be improving Lukaku, because he certainly has what it takes

  42. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    RB Leipzig saying they'll have to sell Timo Werner in the summer, we should definitely be in there in my opinion and maybe even as a replacement for Lukaku. I know he has poached a few goals, but I still have my doubts if he'll be able to do well enough in this system. I guess we'll see from now until end of the season anyway.

    If we start Valencia against Spurs then that's a major blot against the Ole reign so far, even if we win! The guy is a total passenger. Mata messed this system up as well, he didn't offer any width at all on that right, it made everywhere else so congested.
    How can it be a blot if we win. Valencia is brilliant defensively, which we may well need to be on one flank, since our left is so attacking in Martial and Shaw.

  43. Why would it matter if Werner suits this system or not? i'll be a new one in the summer anyway?

  44. Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Burkart = no need for another STR. Sanchez can play there also. Tbh we don’t even need to invest in any attackers unless we lose a few. Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Sánchez, Lingard, Mata. Then the likes Burkart, Greenwood, Chong on the cusp. Plus we have a top talent coming at the end of this season that we spent fairly good money on for a youngster.

    Not it to mention Pogba, Gomes, Pereira, Barlow, Puigmal, Buffonge can all play 10 or wide.

  45. Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    How can it be a blot if we win. Valencia is brilliant defensively, which we may well need to be on one flank, since our left is so attacking in Martial and Shaw.
    Valencia is completely finished Mike, sooner we all accept it the better and move on, it's like Rooney all over again. Any time he is on the pitch it's wasted minutes for Dalot and even Young offers a lot more. Yesterday against Newcastle all our attacks were going down the left in first half and it was just messing us right up. Admittedly Mata didn't help either but Valencia never even tries to take on a man or attack now.

    Quote Originally Posted by wkdsoul View Post
    Why would it matter if Werner suits this system or not? i'll be a new one in the summer anyway?
    He scores goals, but technically is so limited and his first touch is woeful. I doubt any manager can fix that, long-term I don't think he is a United striker.

  46. TFM loan been terminated.

  47. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Valencia is completely finished Mike, sooner we all accept it the better and move on, it's like Rooney all over again. Any time he is on the pitch it's wasted minutes for Dalot and even Young offers a lot more. Yesterday against Newcastle all our attacks were going down the left in first half and it was just messing us right up. Admittedly Mata didn't help either but Valencia never even tries to take on a man or attack now.



    He scores goals, but technically is so limited and his first touch is woeful. I doubt any manager can fix that, long-term I don't think he is a United striker.
    So if he completely shuts down their main attacking side, while ours goes on the rampage, that would be a blot? I disagree

  48. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Dalot is still incredibly raw, and you still have to manager player happiness. Something Jose completely forgot

  49. If Valencia plays, Mata can’t. There was no occupation of the right wing until the subs.

  50. Good time for TFM coming back with all our defencive issues and no doubt another injury crisis.

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