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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    Might still make the bench. With maybe Chong. Don’t think Ole wants to rush Lingard back.
    Trying not to overhype him but he looks to have the footballing brain Rashford lacks sometimes, whilst having the technical ability as well.

  2. WOW 3-1 and out that’s a terrible and shocking score line! To wasteful in the final 3rd and as has been the case for a while concede to many easy goals. Also have a bit of first team syndrome. Do really well against the top sides then just switch off and lack intensity against teams we should be hammering.

    Losing to them while recalling all the big guns. WOW!

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    WOW 3-1 and out that’s a terrible and shocking score line! To wasteful in the final 3rd and as has been the case for a while concede to many easy goals. Also have a bit of first team syndrome. Do really well against the top sides then just switch off and lack intensity against teams we should be hammering.

    Losing to them while recalling all the big guns. WOW!
    Still not something right with our reserve/youth teams for me, the talent is there but why are we losing to sides like that? With the U23's we have that useless plonker Sbraglia or whatever his name is. Then we have Neil Ryan head coach for the U18's, not exactly much of an improvement.

    Are those twonks really going to push through these promising players? I hardly doubt it, just regressing if anything. We've got some really good players I that U 18 side so that's disappointing to say the least. Everyone spoke very highly of that Traore from PSG before he arrived here.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Still not something right with our reserve/youth teams for me, the talent is there but why are we losing to sides like that? With the U23's we have that useless plonker Sbraglia or whatever his name is. Then we have Neil Ryan head coach for the U18's, not exactly much of an improvement.

    Are those twonks really going to push through these promising players? I hardly doubt it, just regressing if anything. We've got some really good players I that U 18 side so that's disappointing to say the least. Everyone spoke very highly of that Traore from PSG before he arrived here.
    Ryans actually a good coach very much teaches the lads good attacking technical football. Just like McKenna just not very good at organising a defence.

    Which at that age isn’t so much of a problem. All our defenders are good on the ball and have good technical ability at that age. And you can see the defencive qualities. But at that age we only seem focused on technique and attacking. Where it falls down and in a big big way, is when they step up to the u23s.

    With Joyce there you know you wasn’t going to get great free flowing football. But you got great discipline, work ethic and a lot of tactical work and team structure. Add to that the qualities they learned technique and attacking wise. We always did well under Joyce and the players were ready for that step up to first team football either here or away elsewhere. With Sbragia it’s just an absolute shit show. He’s niether one or the other. It’s just a mess.!

    We have some top talent in all age groups. We just need to make the right appointment at u23s to prepare them for that final step. Traore is a hell of a player. Very much a mini Viera in style just very inconsistent atm sometimes finds it to easy.
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  5. Great to hear that Dean Henderson form of the past 2/3 seasons have got him on Gareth Southgates radar for future England squads.

  6. Ndombele what a player. Yes please

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    Ndombele what a player. Yes please
    Matic needs upgrading sooner rather than later tbf, he's not mobile enough to cover the ground sometimes and given his age I wouldn't fancy seeing him play every game next season if we were in 4 competitions. He should of closed down Xhaka better for Arsenal's goal.

    Regarding ho we get next in CL, the thing I want moist really is having an opponent where we play the away leg first. I just feel we are better away from home and if we can get a goal or two gives you a massive advantage going into the home leg.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Matic needs upgrading sooner rather than later tbf, he's not mobile enough to cover the ground sometimes and given his age I wouldn't fancy seeing him play every game next season if we were in 4 competitions. He should of closed down Xhaka better for Arsenal's goal.

    Regarding ho we get next in CL, the thing I want moist really is having an opponent where we play the away leg first. I just feel we are better away from home and if we can get a goal or two gives you a massive advantage going into the home leg.
    If City get drawn away first leg as well then we have to reverse our fixture and play the first leg at home because UEFA won't allow us both to play at home on the same night or on consecutive nights. Only way it will work in our favour is if both us and City get drawn at home for the first leg, then we would be reversed to play away first.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...anchester-city
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  9. Scholes leaves Oldham, couldn't hack it. Mourinho's smiling somewhere with a whiskey.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Matic needs upgrading sooner rather than later tbf, he's not mobile enough to cover the ground sometimes and given his age I wouldn't fancy seeing him play every game next season if we were in 4 competitions. He should of closed down Xhaka better for Arsenal's goal.

    Regarding ho we get next in CL, the thing I want moist really is having an opponent where we play the away leg first. I just feel we are better away from home and if we can get a goal or two gives you a massive advantage going into the home leg.

    I'd want the opposite, another PSG scenario, just hopefully put ourselves in a better position at home in the first 90. The away goal rule in 2nd legs frighten home teams.

    In fact, in the last decade, all of our eliminations, bar one, were HOME leg first AWAY leg second.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    I'd want the opposite, another PSG scenario, just hopefully put ourselves in a better position at home in the first 90. The away goal rule in 2nd legs frighten home teams.

    In fact, in the last decade, all of our eliminations, bar one, were HOME leg first AWAY leg second.
    Yeah I don't trust us to do that in the first leg at home though, we're pretty dodgy at Old Trafford for some reason and have been for a while. Get a few away goals however and then have them back at OT I'd feel more comfortable we can get the right result to see us through.

    I've got a feeling we're getting Barcelona, hope I'm wrong.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Yeah I don't trust us to do that in the first leg at home though, we're pretty dodgy at Old Trafford for some reason and have been for a while. Get a few away goals however and then have them back at OT I'd feel more comfortable we can get the right result to see us through.

    I've got a feeling we're getting Barcelona, hope I'm wrong.

    and it's for that reason I would rather know what we're dealing with in terms of away goals conceded AFTER the first leg.

  13. Martial back in the French squad

  14. Barcelona, feckin hell, >.<

    ZZ instincts right once again.
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  15. Bring them the fuck on. Some payback for 09 & 11!!

    Look at it this way, if I told you at the start of December we'd beat PSG and get Barca in the quarters, you'd have bitten my hand off.

  16. Our luck in draws since Ole took over has been unreally bad

  17. I actually think we’re gonna win this.Solskjaer has brought the winning mentality from SAF’s time and Barca have Valverde, so if we can keep our cool(looking at you, Pogba)I think we can beat Barca and announce to the world that we are back in Europe.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrio View Post
    I actually think we’re gonna win this.Solskjaer has brought the winning mentality from SAF’s time and Barca have Valverde, so if we can keep our cool(looking at you, Pogba)I think we can beat Barca and announce to the world that we are back in Europe.
    Hah....
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  19. Ignore the spoilt Barca fans, Valverde has been v.good for them. Just because it isn't Pep's tiki-taka

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrio View Post
    I actually think we’re gonna win this.Solskjaer has brought the winning mentality from SAF’s time and Barca have Valverde, so if we can keep our cool(looking at you, Pogba)I think we can beat Barca and announce to the world that we are back in Europe.
    Or we could get bent over and fucked in the arse....

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  21. I admire any man who's positive about his team, but we still need to acknowledge & respect they

    -have the best player in history
    -are walking their league
    -are European royalty

    Being optimistic about it is one thing, but we need to acknowledge we're underdogs over 180 mins. Just to get here past PSG was a great achievement, anything here in is a bonus! Having said that, let's fucking have them
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    I'd want the opposite, another PSG scenario, just hopefully put ourselves in a better position at home in the first 90. The away goal rule in 2nd legs frighten home teams.

    In fact, in the last decade, all of our eliminations, bar one, were HOME leg first AWAY leg second.
    ole agrees:

    Ole: "I’m probably completely different to 99 per cent of managers, as I prefer away last like we had against PSG. If you can get a decent result at home, then we know we can go away and hurt anyone like we did in Paris."

  23. I prefer second leg away as well as what’s already said I think it’s a hige benefit if it gets to extra time as one goal means the other side has to score twice. You basically get an extra half hour to score away goals the other side doesn’t get

  24. I stand by what I said.Ronaldo’s the best player in the world.(did you not see what he did to atleti?And that isn’t the first time that has happened(Wolfsburg)).I agree Valverde been good in the league, but he is like Mourinho was at Madrid when they play the cl- tactically sound, but very conservative.The 6-1 comeback would not have happened if it were valverde at the helm.I really think we can beat them.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    Scholes leaves Oldham, couldn't hack it. Mourinho's smiling somewhere with a whiskey.
    The owner is a meddling twat who gets involved in team affairs, guess Scholesy wasnt having it. Then again Mourinho had to deal with Woodward so...

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrio View Post
    I stand by what I said.Ronaldo’s the best player in the world.(did you not see what he did to atleti?And that isn’t the first time that has happened(Wolfsburg)).I agree Valverde been good in the league, but he is like Mourinho was at Madrid when they play the cl- tactically sound, but very conservative.The 6-1 comeback would not have happened if it were valverde at the helm.I really think we can beat them.
    How Ronaldo is involved in United - Barca tie?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Bujakaa92 View Post
    How Ronaldo is involved in United - Barca tie?
    He isn’t.Rh said messi was the best player in history and I disagree
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  28. James Garner just put pen to paper on a new long term contract

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrio View Post
    I stand by what I said.Ronaldo’s the best player in the world.(did you not see what he did to atleti?And that isn’t the first time that has happened(Wolfsburg)).I agree Valverde been good in the league, but he is like Mourinho was at Madrid when they play the cl- tactically sound, but very conservative.The 6-1 comeback would not have happened if it were valverde at the helm.I really think we can beat them.

    I think Ronaldo has a better mentality & probably even the better legacy, but he doesn't touch Messi as a footballer. Messi competes with Ronaldo for being the world's best goalscorer, Hazard/Neymar for being the worlds best dribbler/go-to-man & even with the likes of Ozil & co. for the best creator - all of this to obscenely elite levels - and for what it's worth, I prefer Ronaldo!

  30. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    So up for Barcelona. Wanted them or Ajax. Going to be a cracking tie

  31. Ethan Galbraith has earned his first international cap being called up for NI u21s


    Absolutely buzzing for the Barca matches!

  32. I kind of want Fred to play again tomorrow, just feel last two games he has been getting some form and shame to drop him again.

  33. Can rule out any older signings after Ole presser. Said when asked about Bale. Yes we want quality players but we want quality players who will give us longevity. And take into account all the aspects of a deal age, fitness etc.

  34. only time i would want bale is b4 he went to real
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  35. Woodward would sign Bale if given the choice, but any manager in their right mind wouldnt touch him with a barge pole. Never mind the fee, he can't stay fit. We've got enough with Sanchez without him as well

  36. Quote Originally Posted by steveorobbo View Post
    Woodward would sign Bale if given the choice, but any manager in their right mind wouldnt touch him with a barge pole. Never mind the fee, he can't stay fit. We've got enough with Sanchez without him as well
    Dont think Woodward’s got a choice. Ole made it clear that he’s given the club targets.

  37. Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    Dont think Woodward’s got a choice. Ole made it clear that he’s given the club targets.
    Well fingers crossed he's learned his lesson. Coz if he's not gonna listen to Mourinho then by rights you would think he wouldn't listen to Ole either. Saying that though maybe he did learn his lesson last season and thats why he wouldn't go for older players like Perisic/Boateng, and only caved in on Sanchez out of pressure

  38. Quote Originally Posted by steveorobbo View Post
    Well fingers crossed he's learned his lesson. Coz if he's not gonna listen to Mourinho then by rights you would think he wouldn't listen to Ole either. Saying that though maybe he did learn his lesson last season and thats why he wouldn't go for older players like Perisic/Boateng, and only caved in on Sanchez out of pressure
    He will defo listen to Ole especially after what he’s done till now. Ole position in terms of demands are super strong. He can basically demand what size contract he wants, what wage he wants, signings. What he’s done to this club since arriving is a minor miracle tbh he holds all the cards atm. Yes Woody should of backed Mourinho after his new contract 100% he made his bed and should of laid in it with Mourinho. Glad he also had the sense in the back of his mind to not bow to all those older signings!

  39. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    I think Ronaldo has a better mentality & probably even the better legacy, but he doesn't touch Messi as a footballer. Messi competes with Ronaldo for being the world's best goalscorer, Hazard/Neymar for being the worlds best dribbler/go-to-man & even with the likes of Ozil & co. for the best creator - all of this to obscenely elite levels - and for what it's worth, I prefer Ronaldo!
    Cannot disagree there.

  40. Just watching MUTV interview with Ole. Love what I’m hearing in regards to signings! WE need to get the right players, with the right mentality that will give us longevity and play the Utd way Young exciting wonder kids incoming

  41. Quote Originally Posted by steveorobbo View Post
    Well fingers crossed he's learned his lesson. Coz if he's not gonna listen to Mourinho then by rights you would think he wouldn't listen to Ole either. Saying that though maybe he did learn his lesson last season and thats why he wouldn't go for older players like Perisic/Boateng, and only caved in on Sanchez out of pressure
    Tbf, I'm not a fan of this "Woodward didn't support Mourinho" narrative. Mourinho wanted a CM, he broke the world record for him. He felt the demands he wanted from that record CM, he needed an adequate DM, so he threw 40M for Matic. Even after that, he blew 50M on a CM he didn't even seem keen on this season. He wanted a CB, well, 2, and he paid like 60-70M for a pair. He wanted someone to replace Zlatan, & was virtually given his choice of any available striker in world football to purchase, and he took Lukaku for 75M. He wanted a winger, he got Mkhi in, which backfired, then was allowed to destabilize the entire wage structure with swapping him for Alexis Sanchez. He wanted to take a RB in, he got Dalot.

    So are we really going to say he didn't get supported because he wasn't allowed to sell Martial & replace him with Perisic? I mean, yeah, technically, he wasn't completely supported this window, but it was a good thing he wasn't. Club had some common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    .... So are we really going to say he didn't get supported because he wasn't allowed to sell Martial & replace him with Perisic? I mean, yeah, technically, he wasn't completely supported this window, but it was a good thing he wasn't. Club had some common sense.
    Absolutely save for the ‘common sense’ went in extending him early when there was no clear sign of progress.

    After the club went all in there it was shambolic, and wrong, to not back him the summer. Far be it from me to defend that gobshite but if he’s your man, you had to back him. If he wasn’t, you don’t extend him.

  43. So after Oles last few interviews on transfers. Good mentality, Play the Utd way and Longevity/Young. Any ideas on potential targets?

  44. Suggests to me that Sancho rumours look true, as opposed to Bale. CB's interesting, would almost definitely rule out Toby. Kouli will be 28? Maybe shock move for De Ligt? Still think 28 is a nice age for a ready-made, WC centre half though.

    Then there's that Joao Felix lad we're heavily linked with.

  45. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    Tbf, I'm not a fan of this "Woodward didn't support Mourinho" narrative. Mourinho wanted a CM, he broke the world record for him. He felt the demands he wanted from that record CM, he needed an adequate DM, so he threw 40M for Matic. Even after that, he blew 50M on a CM he didn't even seem keen on this season. He wanted a CB, well, 2, and he paid like 60-70M for a pair. He wanted someone to replace Zlatan, & was virtually given his choice of any available striker in world football to purchase, and he took Lukaku for 75M. He wanted a winger, he got Mkhi in, which backfired, then was allowed to destabilize the entire wage structure with swapping him for Alexis Sanchez. He wanted to take a RB in, he got Dalot.

    So are we really going to say he didn't get supported because he wasn't allowed to sell Martial & replace him with Perisic? I mean, yeah, technically, he wasn't completely supported this window, but it was a good thing he wasn't. Club had some common sense.
    This. Woodward hs many flaws, which we've all discussed. But he backed Jose. Until he tried to bump a young start for a 30 year old, which made no sense as a transfer

  46. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouseinthehouse View Post
    Absolutely save for the ‘common sense’ went in extending him early when there was no clear sign of progress.

    After the club went all in there it was shambolic, and wrong, to not back him the summer. Far be it from me to defend that gobshite but if he’s your man, you had to back him. If he wasn’t, you don’t extend him.
    No, they made the right call not to back him, they realised (too late in many ways) that backing him was only going to damage the make up of the squad.

  47. Quote Originally Posted by RhQQ View Post
    Suggests to me that Sancho rumours look true, as opposed to Bale. CB's interesting, would almost definitely rule out Toby. Kouli will be 28? Maybe shock move for De Ligt? Still think 28 is a nice age for a ready-made, WC centre half though.

    Then there's that Joao Felix lad we're heavily linked with.
    Yeah pretty much what I was thinking. Yeah Koulibaly would be good. But if younger then maybe De Ligt, Milenkovic, Skrinrar, Gravenberch. RW Sancho, Chiesa, Lozano, Under, Pepe, Felix. CM Ndombele, Neves, Brooks, Fernandes, Berge, Pellegrini, Aour, Rabiot.

    There the 3 positions and some names I hope we are looking at.
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  48. U18s At Newcastle United Academy
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  49. Would absolutely love De Ligt and feel he would suit Ole's style of management well. Ok could say that he's 19 but it's a bit of a exception because he is really experience for his age and has such a leader mentality that we badly lack.

    But sadly De Ligt going to Barcelona most likely, so in terms of other young CB's I can think of Skriniar I guess.

    I don't think we'll get Sancho this summer, Dortmund want him to stay for another season and who can blame them? Price will most likely just keep rising so no rush to sell.

  50. Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    No, they made the right call not to back him, they realised (too late in many ways) that backing him was only going to damage the make up of the squad.
    Then don’t extend him.

    That’s the whole crux. You can’t have it both ways.

    No queztion he should never have been given money the summer. But after you’ve extemded him early and gone all in, you have to back him. Rightly or wrongly thats the path you’ve chosen.

    Instead they just made an absolute mockery of themselves and their horrendous decisions from the moment they extended him so early.

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