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  1. Why do we need to spend £100m on a no.10? Come on guys give your heads a wobble. Right now we have much much greater priorities than that position which isn't even used at the moment really at United.

    Lets focus on priorities, next season if we have any chance these positions need. to be sorted: - CB, RB, RW, CM

    Until these are addressed we shouldn't be spending anywhere else for me!
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  2. Lets not forget this is the Woodward mentality that has ultimately lead us to where we are right now. Big money signings and no real emphasis on what is best for the team. Lets just get the big shiny toy and hope it fixes our issues.,.. it mostly never does.

    Yes I like Joao Felix, but if it means we are wasting time not getting someone we really need then it's money wasted for me.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Why do we need to spend £100m on a no.10? Come on guys give your heads a wobble. Right now we have much much greater priorities than that position which isn't even used at the moment really at United.

    Lets focus on priorities, next season if we have any chance these positions need. to be sorted: - CB, RB, RW, CM

    Until these are addressed we shouldn't be spending anywhere else for me!
    You do realise we’ve played a diamond most under Ole especially after the first couple of weeks.

    Also it’s been well documented that Felix is a target for Ole so I don’t know why your blaming Woodward if he does come in.

  4. Solskjær on Herrera: “Maybe the future might have been worrying him. Maybe that is part of the reason why he is injured. Who knows? He doesn’t know why he is injured." #mulive [bbc]

  5. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Why do we need to spend £100m on a no.10? Come on guys give your heads a wobble. Right now we have much much greater priorities than that position which isn't even used at the moment really at United.

    Lets focus on priorities, next season if we have any chance these positions need. to be sorted: - CB, RB, RW, CM

    Until these are addressed we shouldn't be spending anywhere else for me!
    This. We need to get away from the fantasy nonsense.

    Sancho is a number one target, Saul is a hard option. There a number of centre backs targeted. No idea about right back though. I'd say right back is the least of worries tbh
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  6. We do need a Full back though. Young is not getting younger, and there is a very high drop in quality from Luke Shaw at LB. We need atleast one full back, and recent reports have been linking us to Tierney too (Celtic). and wan Bissaka. But either ways, agree with zz - CB, CM, RB, RW for me too.

    Need to build a base, and then build castles. Not the other way around.
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  7. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherkey View Post
    We do need a Full back though. Young is not getting younger, and there is a very high drop in quality from Luke Shaw at LB. We need atleast one full back, and recent reports have been linking us to Tierney too (Celtic). and wan Bissaka. But either ways, agree with zz - CB, CM, RB, RW for me too.

    Need to build a base, and then build castles. Not the other way around.
    We do. But we need the other 3 first. Especially if we lose Mata and Herrera
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  8. Felix is a target for everyone in the press, we agreed in March to pay the release at the end of the season according to some of the trash. Although Tkixi was at the game last night (looking at Jovic or Dias most likely)

  9. Exclusive: Manchester United offered to double Ander Herrera's salary to get him to stay #mufc
    NEW @ForbesSports

  10. Think rumours were that Jovic would sign the contract with Frankfurt, due to getting first team minutes. That sounds the most plausible, actually. Same with Felix (although I don't know if the 130 Mn RC was before or after the new contract.

  11. Our squad is the third most expensive in the world, just behind City and PSG. Also, is the third more expensive wage bill in the world. We don't have a squad that matches the amount of money we spent to assemble it, not by a long shot. Someone is at fault for this, and is not the managers.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by brunoh View Post
    Our squad is the third most expensive in the world, just behind City and PSG. Also, is the third more expensive wage bill in the world. We don't have a squad that matches the amount of money we spent to assemble it, not by a long shot. Someone is at fault for this, and is not the managers.
    Third most expensive in terms of what? Transfer values or Transfer values paid? If it is paid, I kinda find it hard to believe - Real and Barca aren't ahead of us? If it is transfer values, that is good. As for wage bill, one would assume Pogba and Sanchez are the biggest contributors to that.

  13. I'd be disappointed if we move for Gueye. He's been very good for Everton, but he's not an all around CM like Herrera. More like a sub for Matic. And he's 29 and never played for a big club.

    If we want a experienced midfielder to replace Herrera, we should move for Rakitic. He's an intelligent player, does a bit of everything, very technical, a proven winner and in my book played a better WC 2018 than Modric. Barca's president said he could leave at the end of the season and Juve is showing interest.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Sherkey View Post
    Third most expensive in terms of what? Transfer values or Transfer values paid? If it is paid, I kinda find it hard to believe - Real and Barca aren't ahead of us? If it is transfer values, that is good. As for wage bill, one would assume Pogba and Sanchez are the biggest contributors to that.
    Is the amount we spent to assemble this squad. PSG bought Neymar and edge us for a couple of millions. I know it's unbelievable, but there's a good amount of sources to confirm it.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by brunoh View Post
    Is the amount we spent to assemble this squad. PSG bought Neymar and edge us for a couple of millions. I know it's unbelievable, but there's a good amount of sources to confirm it.
    But the thing is - PSG changed players like sockets till they find whats good for them. Clubs like City or Chelsea or even Barca spent more than United assembling their squad.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Vanjagl View Post
    But the thing is - PSG changed players like sockets till they find whats good for them. Clubs like City or Chelsea or even Barca spent more than United assembling their squad.
    Only PSG & City spent more assembling the current squads as they are than Man U.

    Weekly Post 233
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by wkdsoul View Post
    Only PSG & City spent more assembling the current squads as they are than Man U.

    Weekly Post 233
    Hmm, didn't expect that. Though United spent a lot during a winter/summer and my informations are based on last season. Also did not expect Liverpool to be that high.

  18. That Juve spent 'just' half a billion to build a top three squad in Europe is embarrasing for us.

  19. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theatre of Dreams83 View Post
    Exclusive: Manchester United offered to double Ander Herrera's salary to get him to stay #mufc
    NEW @ForbesSports
    Still less than PSG. That would have taken him to 160k. Which I think everyone would agree is a very respectable offer

  20. From the embargo part of Ole presser

    OGS @ManUtd progress: “Under no illusions this going to be plain sailing, its going to be hard. It's going to be survival of the fittest/best. We got a great boost, now [it's] more challenging times. You want to see players step up + say now: 'I want to be part of this'.”


    OGS also confirms Antonio Valencia will leave @ManUtd at end of season

    Good read and like what he’s saying. Just makes me even more sure he’s the right man for the job. People think he’s got the job to be a yes man and can’t be ruthless. Think that’s far from the truth! Can’t wait for the summer and next season feels like the reset the club needs. https://twitter.com/sistoney67/statu...714633729?s=21


    Five new additions will be just the start of Solskjaer’s overhaul this summer https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-under-no-illusions-as-he-prepares-to-make-tough-decisions-in-man-utd-overhaul-a4117096.html …
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  21. U18s v City

    At Academy Stadium
    Kick off at 11am

    .@ManUtd U18s line-up...

    XI | Carney, Williams, Devine, Bernard, Hockenhall, Levitt, Ramazani, Traore, Elanga, Galbraith, McCann.

    SUBS | Stanley, Mastny, Helm, Hughes, Shoritire.


    15 mins gone. End to end Utd wasting good attacking chances. City just edging the possession and forced a few good saves. City just taken the lead 1-0



    Big kick off see City Robinson get sent off for a late swipe at Williams. Brawl brakes out with Robinson and Williams having a set to. All 22 players get involved. Williams gets a yellow for his reaction to Robinson’s late challenge. And Ramanzani sees yellow for pushing over a City player. That was fun lol

    Get in Utd equalise. Great flighted ball over the City defence by Brandon Williams. Met by a great run from deep by Galbraith who first touch takes it round the keeper second touch slots it home.

    1-1 HT. The yellow cards are pilling up and there’s defo a couple more reds if this carries on. Proper derby encapsulated by Captain Brandon Williams who has been absolutely fantastic in defence and attack. Can see what it means to him being a proper local lad. Traore on the other hand has been the complete opposite so far!

    Well that’s a shit start to the second half! 2-1 City. Utd waste a good attack get hit on the break. But the cross in was poor from City but Hockenhull absolutely air swipes trying to clear the ball, misses it by a mile and the City player behind him has an easy shot to score.

    Hockenhull off for Iysten Hughes u16s player making his debut. He’s gone to RB and Williams to CB. Ramanzani makes City keeper make 2 top saves to keep them in the lead. 61 mins gone.

    2-2. Devine brought down in the box from behind. Levitt makes it 9 from 9 peno this season. Then runs up and shushes the keeper who was doing all sorts to put him off.
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  22. OGS in prog: “There are 4 teams fighting for 2 places. I’m confident we can do it. There’s little room for mistakes, something we have stressed to players. We have spoken of the importance of effort, attitude + intensity we are going to need in the remaining weeks of the season”

  23. Solskjaer likely to make as many as five changes to his Man Utd line-up today ahead of Barcelona return leg on Tuesday. Jones, Rojo, Lingard, Mata and Martial all likely to start against West Ham #MUFC

  24. Happy with that team!

  25. A cheeky lil' bet on Rojo getting carded and Lukaku scoring today?
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  26. This is really really bad. From one extreme to another in the space of 8 weeks.

  27. Modern Day Legend
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    This is really really bad. From one extreme to another in the space of 8 weeks.
    Yeah, can't see yers getting anything out of City frustratingly.

  28. Told you at the time it was a shit decision by the board to appoint Ole before the end of season. Then you could of assessed the whole season and give a more accurate picture on whether Solskjaer is right man.

    Why did we trigger that decision before we even recovered after a loss, we're useless top to bottom.

    Outplayed by West Ham, I can't even remember our last good performance under Ole and that's the most worrying thing. People might say Barca but we had 0 shots on target that's how low our standards are now.

  29. How do you fancy Rice?
    He has not had lot of work to do...

    Shaky game from your side, wrong offside call against Felipe goal, soft penalty and just West Ham dominating more.

    Now Greenword on, that's interesting.

  30. Big 3 points. Feck the performance!

  31. The big positive and only one probably from today once again is Fred, this guy is better than Matic in that position. He has more mobility and better on the ball as well.

  32. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Told you at the time it was a shit decision by the board to appoint Ole before the end of season. Then you could of assessed the whole season and give a more accurate picture on whether Solskjaer is right man.

    Why did we trigger that decision before we even recovered after a loss, we're useless top to bottom.

    Outplayed by West Ham, I can't even remember our last good performance under Ole and that's the most worrying thing. People might say Barca but we had 0 shots on target that's how low our standards are now.
    And it was explained at the time why this wouldn't work. Whoever it was needed to be announced then.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    And it was explained at the time why this wouldn't work. Whoever it was needed to be announced then.
    I just really can't see this working long-term and I hope I'm wrong. But we are getting bossed and outplayed by teams consistently in Old Trafford by Watford, West Ham. It just shouldn't be happening, I know our squad isn't the best but something can't be working in training either.

  34. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    I just really can't see this working long-term and I hope I'm wrong. But we are getting bossed and outplayed by teams consistently in Old Trafford by Watford, West Ham. It just shouldn't be happening, I know our squad isn't the best but something can't be working in training either.
    Yeah but you hate everything. The real work was always going to start from recruitment and summer work

  35. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    I just really can't see this working long-term and I hope I'm wrong. But we are getting bossed and outplayed by teams consistently in Old Trafford by Watford, West Ham. It just shouldn't be happening, I know our squad isn't the best but something can't be working in training either.
    Its been said loads of times mate. New manager, new staff, new training, new style of play, shit loads of injuries, lots of players lacking game time, squad not good enough depth wise. You need to take all these things into consideration.

    Know one one knows if it will work out long term. But he deserved it for what he’s done and the position he has is atm. We have beat Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG drew with Pool and was scoring for fun against the lesser teams early on playing good football to boot.

  36. That was a terrible performance

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  37. http://solskjaertabellen.com/en.html

    Rome wasn’t built in day

  38. Rojo is absolutely useless as fullback, I don't know why we didn't just bring in someone from the youth who has at least been playing regularly and is something to build for the future possibly.

    Having Young and Rojo starting against Barcelona on Tuesday scares the life out of me, just the thought of it!

  39. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Rojo is absolutely useless as fullback, I don't know why we didn't just bring in someone from the youth who has at least been playing regularly and is something to build for the future possibly.

    Having Young and Rojo starting against Barcelona on Tuesday scares the life out of me, just the thought of it!
    Rojo is useless, period.

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  40. Quote Originally Posted by Legend Incredimaria View Post
    Rojo is useless, period.

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    Yep and that’s why he will be gone in the Summer.

  41. Fair play to De Gea for the wonder save, we all know he's capable of that. But he still has to work on his distribution because it's really average at the moment to say the least. Put us under pressure a lot with his kicking and throwing for their goal.

  42. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Fair play to De Gea for the wonder save, we all know he's capable of that. But he still has to work on his distribution because it's really average at the moment to say the least. Put us under pressure a lot with his kicking and throwing for their goal.
    Fans have come to expect De Gea saving the club after the last few seasons. Unfortunately however, this season has seen a drop in form not just relating to his distribution but also his general play. He has not been making the saves which were seen as 'bread and butter' saves this season, which coupled with a poor central defensive set up (although it has got better now Jose has gone) has lead to mistakes and numerous dropped points. The guy has been seen as a 'superman' over the last few seasons but he is proving this season that he is only human after all.

  43. Quote Originally Posted by zzeezzy View Post
    Fair play to De Gea for the wonder save, we all know he's capable of that. But he still has to work on his distribution because it's really average at the moment to say the least. Put us under pressure a lot with his kicking and throwing for their goal.
    Distribution used to be one of De gea's strengths actually. He just hasn't looked right this season but even a poor de Gea is still better than 80% of GKs in the world rn.

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  44. So, outside of Sancho, I have no idea who United can bring as a right winger. Nico Pepe is awkward. He's quick, good dribbler and decent finisher, but his movement is just odd. And not the most techical player. Reminds me of Sadio Mane, but he's a lot more polished.
    Lozano, Neres, Ronny Lopez, they are just meh. Not productive enough. United need creative spark and they are not there.

    As for central midfield, if Mata and Herrera leave, its its g be tough. Fred can (hopefully) replace Herrera, but who's gonna replace Mata? Even backup players are worth 30m+ these days. I like Bruno Fernandes, but he'll cost a bomb. Dont think Saul + Sancho is realistic, because that would look north or 300m with at least one midfielder and the right back.

    And right back is an issue. I dont trust AWB, nor I trust Dalot. One offers little when attacking, other is not very good defender. If only you could merge them, eh?

    I think Uniteds CDs are good enough. Lindelof and Smalling work well. Then you have Bailly and Jones, plus Tuanzebe. No need for a big money target. If Rice joins, then theres more than enough defenders.
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  45. I think United have to go back to doing what they do best Vanjagl, buying players who aren't the finished article yet but in hope that in building a new team they develop into great players. There is no quick fix, at least I hope that is how we're looking at it rather than going back to the Woodward mentality where we just go for the likes of Bale and Kroos this summer fo example.

    Realistically we're 2 or 3 seasons away at least for competing realistically with City if we do everything right from now onwards, so lets put the infrastructure into player with a technical director and buy players who can develop here. Not the finished article like Di Maria, Falcao, Schweinsteiger etc etc... this approach doesn't work for United.

    As regards as to who those targets should be...... tricky really because you're going to pay a lot now for pretty much anyone with half a reputation.

    I an ideal world: De Ligt, Sancho, N'Dembele, Thomas Munier (from PSG, he is the right age and would give good competition in the hope that Dalot/Laird/Williams or whoever can break through in the time).

    Don't see why United can't get at least Munier and N'Dembele, sure we will have rivals but have to remember that we're still an attractive club. I don't trust our defence enough in terms of CB options beyond Smalling and Lindelof. So I'd definitely try get another CB.

    To be honest more I think about it.... letting Blind go was a terrible decision. He is better CB than everything we have practically bar Smalling and Lindelof, probably equal to. Great utility player and should have stayed for sure.

  46. That works Zz when you have team of established players and than you add some talent. Most of them dont handle the pressure of being a main man, or even some higher expecations. United dont have strong enough spine to currently deploy that strategy. United need a right winger who's ready right away. Same as a midfielder.

    Its gonna be tough, thats for sure.

  47. Alderweireld, Sancho, Meunier sounds more realistic (if having Sancho in your targets is even realistic). I also want a midfielder, but I have no idea how N'Dombele is, so wouldn't comment on him. de Ligt would cost north of 70 Mn, and has a host of clubs behind him. Alderweireld seems more gettable. And Declan Rice, if we can get him. The guy seems to have huge potential, and can cover CB also.

    If not Sancho, Zaha could be worth taking a punt on again. PL ready, and is pretty lethal on his day, and is a good option for a counter-attacking team.

    Also, if Mata leaves, I wouldn't mind a punt on Fekir. Should be reasonably priced for his talent, but his potential injury problems are the only worry. I'm not sure how bad it is, mind you.
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  48. Quote Originally Posted by Sherkey View Post
    Alderweireld, Sancho, Meunier sounds more realistic (if having Sancho in your targets is even realistic). I also want a midfielder, but I have no idea how N'Dombele is, so wouldn't comment on him. de Ligt would cost north of 70 Mn, and has a host of clubs behind him. Alderweireld seems more gettable. And Declan Rice, if we can get him. The guy seems to have huge potential, and can cover CB also.

    If not Sancho, Zaha could be worth taking a punt on again. PL ready, and is pretty lethal on his day, and is a good option for a counter-attacking team.

    Also, if Mata leaves, I wouldn't mind a punt on Fekir. Should be reasonably priced for his talent, but his potential injury problems are the only worry. I'm not sure how bad it is, mind you.
    Not sure about Rice or whether he's just another hyped midfielder due to being English. A good player but not sure he is the answer to our midfield problems, we need someone who can dictate the game from that deep position almost like Carrick and he's not that imo.

    Fred been doing well though lately so maybe not, need a box to box midfielder to replace Herrera though for sure. Depends how we use Fred long-term really.

  49. Targets should be Koulibaly, Meunir, Lozano, Fernandes, Partey or Ndombele. Will fix glaring holes and weaknesses and is realistic and will have us not far off in terms of challenging next season.

  50. Going back to Fergie's way is not going to work anymore. Keane, Cantona, Ferdinand, Carrick, Rooney, Berbatov. Find best players who are already proven in English football and buy them, that was the policy. But these days PL clubs can defend themselves much better against poaching talent and they make you pay with blood.

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