Low percentage of completed passes, lone striker, deep lying playmaker
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  1. Low percentage of completed passes, lone striker, deep lying playmaker

    It will be pretty long post.

    I have very big problem with percentage of completed passes. I always have about 50-65% - that's horrible.
    so here is my question, what have an affect on this part? I'm looking for very precise answer that will help me improving my tactic. from RFD's to through balls etc. Propably I'm doing some very obvious mistakes but I can't figure out where. I'm not expert in instructions so don't think that some advices may be too simple, every advice can help me I think

    some explanations:
    I'm playing with Napoli, 4-1-4-1.
    Here is my players offensive stats with technique included: http://i47.tinypic.com/30xhi4g.jpg
    And here is my tactic: http://www.sendspace.com/file/g3u0dt

    As you can see I have players with pretty good passing, technique etc. so the problem must be in tac.

    I also made few screen shots with teams from all shaves in Serie A to convince you that problem is big, very big.
    vs Juventus - http://i50.tinypic.com/2r27hac.jpg
    vs bari - http://i50.tinypic.com/nffxmq.jpg
    vs Inter - http://i49.tinypic.com/jv17br.jpg
    vs Sampdoria - http://i45.tinypic.com/244tx51.jpg

    It affects my CCC's (or as I prefer - NO CCC's), possesion, automatically my players shoots from long distance or wingers run down the flank and, if all went well, it ends on a corner cick for me. for my luck I have Hamsik and he almost alone lead the team to the second place after 15 matches.

    My lone striker. I'm playing in tactical challenge so I can't try out playing with 2 strikers. I can't find role that will suit him well. It doesn't matter if Lavezzi, Quagliarella or Hoffer are playing - Quagliarella scored one goal and made 2 assits on 13 performances, Hoffer once scored a hat-trick and then 6 matches without goal or assist, Lavezzi one goal and one assist in 5 performances (he scored more but when he was playing as my right midfielder).

    maybe some ideas or advices how to play with one striker when playing flat 4 in midfield + DMC?

    Getting out the best from deep-lying playmaker (DMC). No matter if Gago or Cigarini are playing. only 7 assists in 15 matches and 6 of them are from set pieces. it is propably combined with the first two issues but this post is about all my problems and this is definitely one of them.

    huh, that should be all

  2. Change your tactics

  3. just 1 quick thing i noticed

    gago has a preferred move that is "plays short and simple passes" so he's not really fit for a DLP role

  4. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    just 1 quick thing i noticed

    gago has a preferred move that is "plays short and simple passes" so he's not really fit for a DLP role
    it was more like a comparing, I mean that both of them can't play there. Cigarini also learned to play killer balls often and it changed nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Shots View Post
    Change your tactics
    can't do this, it must be 4-1-4-1 and there must be other solution then changing whole tactic

  5. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Manchester United Super Moderator
    can you put up scme screenshots of your tactic?

  6. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Manchester United Super Moderator
    this is just a quick look but t think you have overtweaked your tactic

    firstly what is it you want achieve with your tactic, ie how do you want to play

  7. Defensively, everything is going well. 10 goals lost and 9 of them were from set pieces (twice from penalty, twice from DFK and rest from corners but I've already found solution for this). scoring against me seems to be very hard

    I want my DMC-DLP to stay little deeper, start every action and try from time to time killer balls. I want my cm's to play in some way like Gerrard or Lampard, arrives in opponents area and thrash them with shots from distance, individual actions and finishing chances created by my lone striker (he should create chances for CM's and try to finish sometimes alone).

    but I can't achieve that if I have 50% of completed passes striker don't get the balls, it affect on CCC's that he can create etc.

    also I need some explanation about Roam from position, hold up ball and runs from deep. wich instructions should I give to the CM's, wich to DMC and wich to ST.

    as I said, I'm not the expert.

  8. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Manchester United Super Moderator
    ok what you actually describing is a trio of playmakers in midfield. start it a bit more simple, remove all the tweaks you have made to the midfield trio, and your striker (also can you post screenshots of cigarini and sahovic) but off the top of my head you want to attempt the following:

    dmc: deep lying playmaker defend

    mcl sahovic adv playmaker support

    mcr hamsik adv playmaker attack

    (make sure your dedicated playmaker is set to none)

    fc complete forward/support. (if you find he is drifting too much for you liking set his wideplay to normnal instead of moving into channels)

    personally with midfield trio i would play dmc def mid/defend; dlp support and adv pm attack. but try the earlier suggestion first

    and you need better wide players

  9. http://i45.tinypic.com/xlfp7l.jpg

    thanks for your advices. I will try them in next game
    Last edited by Klajwert; 05/06/2010 at 01:34 AM.

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