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  1. Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread

    Hello all,

    Seeing as how I will have a lot of spare time with the Summer holidays coming up and the first half of my GCSE's down added on with the fact that I am not looking to go on holiday anywhere this year,I have decided to open up a Tactic Testing Thread,whereby you can post tactics you have created but are in need of some feedback from other members on FM-Base.

    I will look to do as many as I can over the course of the next two months,as well as juggle the need of revision and studying for the following exams that will come once I embark on being in Year 11.

    The idea for this was followed on from Will1981's venture to find the best tactic on FM-Base,which has seen JP Woody's emerge the victorious,despite it falling behind before to Taida's Herculean (sp) tactic in it's resurgence.

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    Moving on,here are the rules:

    • You may only post your tactics up to five times over two days.
    • Be patient.The minimum amount of time you should wait for me to give you feedback is approximately 2 days.
    • Follow the guidelines below with a few specifics you might want your tactic to have for full effect.
    These are the only rules I can come up with now but more should follow soon.

    Guidelines:

    Please follow this as such:

    Name of Tactic:
    Formation:
    Touchline Shouts:
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use:
    (Link tactic here)

    There is now the requirement of posting screenshots of your current tactics.

    1. The line-up (eg. the formation itself)
    2. Structure of tactic (eg. where it says rigid,fluid,attacking,defensive,shorter passing,more direct etc. etc.)

    Using StuW's DB Update 10.3.2

    Minimum Post Count: 250
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    Fire away.




    Notes:

    People are now welcomed to post their tactics minimum of
    5 over the course of two days,however,this must be used sparingly have just realised I have too much spare time.

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    The list of tactics to be tested:

    TheBetterHalf
    Gaffer
    KA5A8IAN
    ___Sanchez___
    hellroker
    Raikan007
    CorvetteC3
    LGFIRE

    (This is in a certain order so people who post their tactic for review earlier than the next will have their tactic reviewed first)

    Please accept the minimum waiting time of two days as stated in the rules above in the OP.

    Thank you


    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 05/08/2010 at 03:04 PM.

  2. can i be the first i made this only last night and shows good results tryed with shalke and arsenal so far would you be willing to give it ago matey.

    Name of Tactic:shalke
    Formation: diomond 442
    Touchline Shouts:classic mode none needed
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes
    Best Team to Use: any top 4 teams
    (Link tactic here)shalke (Schalke, Sep 2009).tac

    great idea by the way
    Last edited by Trophy_Whorder; 17/07/2010 at 02:10 PM.

  3. looks like an good idea

  4. Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoker_num10 View Post
    can i be the first i made this only last night and shows good results tryed with shalke and arsenal so far would you be willing to give it ago matey.

    Name of Tactic:shalke
    Formation: diomond 442
    Touchline Shouts:classic mode none needed
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes
    Best Team to Use: any top 4 teams
    (Link tactic here)Attachment 87978

    great idea by the way
    Currently testing.

    Quote Originally Posted by sampaman View Post
    looks like an good idea
    Thanks.Appreciated.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mashedPotatoes View Post
    Currently testing.



    Thanks.Appreciated.
    best of luck am arsenal at the mo with it hope you have fun with it.

    i recomend depending on the score if you change speed to fast at half teime and creative freedom to normall again depends on score.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoker_num10 View Post
    can i be the first i made this only last night and shows good results tryed with shalke and arsenal so far would you be willing to give it ago matey.

    Name of Tactic:shalke
    Formation: diomond 442
    Touchline Shouts:classic mode none needed
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes
    Best Team to Use: any top 4 teams
    (Link tactic here)Attachment 87978

    great idea by the way
    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-manchester-united.pngMashed's Tactic Testing Thread-barclays-premier-league-2.png

    Name of Tactic: shalke
    Tactic tested with: Manchester United
    Signings: Andreas Beck,Claudio Marchisio,Edin Dzeko,Guillermo Ochoa
    Best Result: Manchester United 3-1 Manchester City
    Worst Result: Newcastle United 2-1 Manchester United
    Changes to the tactic: None
    Touchline Shouts used: None

    The Good:
    • Strong defensive line,hard to break down.
    • Wingers can create chances,despite playing most times through the middle and have a few pops on goal.
    • Fullbacks play vital role to maintain strength in the back four.
    The Bad:
    • Forward can sometimes miss an array of chances,some clear-cut.
    • Midfield can be complacent at times.
    • One winger can play much worse than the other,sometimes getting as poor ratings as 6.0.
    Recommended:
    • Make one of your wingers have the "Advanced Playmaker role" or change your defensive midfielder into a "Deep-Lying Playmaker"
    • Make your forward an attacking Deep-Lying Playmaker,an attacking Target Man or a supporting Complete Forward.
    • Use some touchline shouts,such as "Hassle Opponents" since your using aggressive tackling and "Work Ball into Box" so that the wingers can have the opportunity to supply the ball more to the forward.
    Verdict:

    Overall,good tactic,has a good way of keeping out good teams and give the opposition something to worry about on the attack.Despite this,the attackers can become complacent and miss a lot of good chances.Should look to improve on this.

    Rating: 6.9/10
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 19/07/2010 at 06:12 PM.

  7. By the way PokerJoker,it's a 4-3-3 with wingers,not a 4-4-2 Diamond

  8. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Super Moderator
    hey could you test this, its a variaant of my highly sucessful 4-4-2, i suspect the roles may need to change in the attacking mid band, but havent tested it yet

    Name of Tactic: Manchester United 4-2-3-1 Deep

    Formation: 4-2-3-1

    Touchline Shouts:
    play wider
    retain possession
    pass into space/feet
    overlap/exploit middle/exploit flanks (all depending on state of play, and strengths/weaknesses of opposition)

    Use of Playmaker? NO

    Style: Attacking possession based football

    Best Team to Use: any top 4-6 teams
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-manchester-united-18.png   Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-manchester-united-19.png  
    Attached Files

  9. Quote Originally Posted by themadsheep2001 View Post
    hey could you test this, its a variaant of my highly sucessful 4-4-2, i suspect the roles may need to change in the attacking mid band, but havent tested it yet

    Name of Tactic: Manchester United 4-2-3-1 Deep

    Formation: 4-2-3-1

    Touchline Shouts:
    play wider
    retain possession
    pass into space/feet
    overlap/exploit middle/exploit flanks (all depending on state of play, and strengths/weaknesses of opposition)

    Use of Playmaker? NO

    Style: Attacking possession based football

    Best Team to Use: any top 4-6 teams
    Status: Beginning to test tactic
    Team: Liverpool
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 17/07/2010 at 04:34 PM.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by themadsheep2001 View Post
    hey could you test this, its a variaant of my highly sucessful 4-4-2, i suspect the roles may need to change in the attacking mid band, but havent tested it yet

    Name of Tactic: Manchester United 4-2-3-1 Deep

    Formation: 4-2-3-1

    Touchline Shouts:
    play wider
    retain possession
    pass into space/feet
    overlap/exploit middle/exploit flanks (all depending on state of play, and strengths/weaknesses of opposition)

    Use of Playmaker? NO

    Style: Attacking possession based football

    Best Team to Use: any top 4-6 teams
    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-liverpool.png Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-barclays-premier-league-3.png

    Name of Tactic: Manchester United 4-2-3-1 Deep
    Tactic tested with: Liverpool
    Signings: Joe Cole,Aleksandr Kolarov
    Best Result: Liverpool 2-0 Manchester United
    Worst Result: Liverpool 1-2 Aston Villa (in extra time)
    Changes to tactic:
    • Changed defensive midfielder to a defending defensive midfielder
    • Swapped winger roles
    Touchline shouts used:
    • Play wider
    • Exploit flanks
    • Retain possession
    • Pass into space
    • Exploit middle
    The Good:
    • The defence is solid,hard to break down
    • Wingers give the opposition a lot to worry about
    • The defensive midfielders play an important role in feeding the ball forward,creating good chances
    The Bad:

    • Forward doesn't come back a lot to help.
    • Fullbacks venture forward a bit too much
    Recommended:
    • Change the forward to a supporting Complete Forward.
    • Set the left fullback to an automatic fullback like the right fullback.
    • Set one of the defensive midfielders on defend.
    • Narrow the play to make the attacking midfielder the more important.The wingers should be just to stretch the play.
    Verdict:

    Very good tactic.Has the ability to tear apart teams with the amount of times and everyone goes forward to score.When testing this tactic,I was able to beat Academica 7-0.Daniel Agger with two goals.Does have the tendancy to beat a big team comfortably and then draw/lose against a minor team.

    Rating: 7.0/10
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 19/07/2010 at 06:12 PM.

  11. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Super Moderator
    cheers mate. this tactic is aimed at the big sides who try and dominate the midfield, barca inter etc so glad to hear it can pick them off

  12. Quote Originally Posted by mashedPotatoes View Post
    By the way PokerJoker,it's a 4-3-3 with wingers,not a 4-4-2 Diamond
    i must have added the wrong file should look like this

    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-diomond-formation.jpg


    same instruction though. cheers for testing mate.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by mashedPotatoes View Post
    Attachment 88008 Attachment 88007

    Tactic tested with: Manchester United
    Signings: Andreas Beck,Claudio Marchisio,Edin Dzeko,Guillermo Ochoa
    Best Result: Manchester United 3-1 Manchester City
    Worst Result: Newcastle United 2-1 Manchester United
    Changes to the tactic: None
    Touchline Shouts used: None

    The Good:
    • Strong defensive line,hard to break down.
    • Wingers can create chances,despite playing most times through the middle and have a few pops on goal.
    • Fullbacks play vital role to maintain strength in the back four.
    The Bad:
    • Forward can sometimes miss an array of chances,some clear-cut.
    • Midfield can be complacent at times.
    • One winger can play much worse than the other,sometimes getting as poor ratings as 6.0.
    Recommended:
    • Make one of your wingers have the "Advanced Playmaker role" or change your defensive midfielder into a "Deep-Lying Playmaker"
    • Make your forward an attacking Deep-Lying Playmaker,an attacking Target Man or a supporting Complete Forward.
    • Use some touchline shouts,such as "Hassle Opponents" since your using aggressive tackling and "Work Ball into Box" so that the wingers can have the opportunity to supply the ball more to the forward.
    Verdict:

    Overall,good tactic,has a good way of keeping out good teams and give the opposition something to worry about on the attack.Despite this,the attackers can become complacent and miss a lot of good chances.Should look to improve on this.

    Rating: 6.9/10
    cheers dude nice one for testing

  14. Name of Tactic: Ac Milan Tatic
    Formation: 4-1-1-2-2
    Touchline Shouts: Defualt
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: Top 4 Teams Any Top League
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SZQ0HEGG

  15. Quote Originally Posted by themadsheep2001 View Post
    cheers mate. this tactic is aimed at the big sides who try and dominate the midfield, barca inter etc so glad to hear it can pick them off
    Yeah,very good tactic.With some tweaking you should be looking at one that can really dominate for seasons to come.

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoker_num10 View Post
    i must have added the wrong file should look like this

    Attachment 88046


    same instruction though. cheers for testing mate.
    It's fine and your welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by pokerjoker_num10 View Post
    cheers dude nice one for testing
    Again,you're welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo43 View Post
    Name of Tactic: Ac Milan Tatic
    Formation: 4-1-1-2-2
    Touchline Shouts: Defualt
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: Top 4 Teams Any Top League
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SZQ0HEGG
    Status: Beginning to test tacticTeam: Tottenham Hotspur


    ---------- Post added at 10:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:58 PM ----------

    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-tottenham-hotspur.png Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-barclays-premier-league-4.png

    Name of Tactic: A.C. Milan Tactic
    Tactic tested with: Tottenham Hotspur
    Signings: Joe Cole,Diego Buonanotte
    Best Results: Liverpool 3-3 Tottenham Hotspur
    Worst Result: Chelsea 1-0 Tottenham Hotspur
    Changes to tactic:
    • Changed RB to defensive fullback
    • Changed left winger to an attacking winger.
    Touchline shouts:
    • Exploit the Middle
    • Work Ball into Box
    The Good:
    • Winger stretches the play and makes it hard for defenders to concentrate.
    • Attacking midfielder acts as a supporting striker and can score goals.
    • Defensive midfielder the 'Destroyer' of the opposition attacks.
    The Bad:
    • Shaky backline.
    • Fullbacks venture too far forward into attacking bands of play.
    • The two attacking midfielders don't co-operate well all the time.
    Recommended:
    • Change the right fullback into a defensive fullback to allow the defence to become more stable.
    • Play a narrower width.
    • Play the Stopper-Cover combo between your defenders to allow a higher defensive line.
    Verdict:

    A tactic that looks good in prospect but is let down by an unsturdy backline,something that needs to be addressed.Some of the roles could be changed,for example playing an Anchor Man when you can just play a Deep-Lying Playmaker or a Defensive Midfielder,depending on your taste.The fullbacks don't need to be set advanced roles as they would already do that in being an automatic fullback.

    Rating. 6.6/10

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    I apologise for the late response,I was out and about so wasn't on my computer to test out the tactic.
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 19/07/2010 at 06:12 PM.

  16. illl test some for ya

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Adam 24 View Post
    illl test some for ya
    Nah,I'm fine.The requests have been small so when they come but the crapload is when I will request for some help.

    ---------- Post added at 11:33 AM ---------- Previous post was yesterday at 11:01 PM ----------

    Minimum Post Count added.Prevents newbies as such from just posting by the bucketload.

  18. I don't meet the minimum post count...

    If you ever get really bored I have a few tactics in my thread called Central Control: Set if you want to do that.

    It would be best if you tried them with a middle/lower end EPL team to see if they work with the lower as well as the upper end.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by khodder View Post
    I don't meet the minimum post count...

    If you ever get really bored I have a few tactics in my thread called Central Control: Set if you want to do that.

    It would be best if you tried them with a middle/lower end EPL team to see if they work with the lower as well as the upper end.
    Yes Khodder,you unfortunately don't meet the minimum post count.But you're getting there.

    You can post them onto the thread and I will then delay them until you've posted your 250th post.Then I will review your tactics.

  20. Name of Tactic: 4-2-4 Birmingham Fluid
    Formation: 4-2-4
    Touchline Shouts: None
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: Villareal or Sevilla?

    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-birmingham-city-3.png
    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-birmingham-city-4.png

    Results against the big four:
    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-man-utd-v-birmingham-.png
    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-birmingham-v-chelsea-.png
    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-arsenal-v-birmingham-.png

    The tactic: 4-2-4 Birmingham Fluid (Birmingham, Dec 2012).tac

  21. hellroker's Avatar hellroker
    Modern Day Legend
    Name of Tactic:Real Madrid Attacking
    Formation:4-1-3-2
    Shouts: Default
    Playmaker:No
    Best Team: Any fluid Spanish Team

    These are a couple of regens in my first team squad:


    Attached Files

  22. Banned for being a rebel
    EDIT

    These are my tactics to be tested.
    Name of Tactic: 4-1-3-2 Barnet 2nd Season
    Formation: 4-1-3-2
    Touchline Shouts: Retain Possession, Exploit Middle, Play Wider, Drop Deeper, Stay on feet
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: A team like Hull who would usually struggle, But a better team like Chelsea would probably be more effective in testing.
    (Link tactic here) : 4-1-3-2 Barnet Tactics 2nd Season (Barnet, Sep 2011).tac

    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-barnet.png
    Last edited by Mr.T; 20/07/2010 at 04:44 PM.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mr.T View Post
    Im gonna post some tactics later on today for you to test.
    Ok,that's cool.

    Quote Originally Posted by hellroker View Post
    Name of Tactic:Real Madrid Attacking
    Formation:4-1-3-2
    Shouts: Default
    Playmaker:No
    Best Team: Any fluid Spanish Team

    These are a couple of regens in my first team squad:


    Status: Currently listed for testing
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 18/07/2010 at 06:15 PM.

  24. Is mine listed as well?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Goooner View Post
    Is mine listed as well?
    Yes.

    Status: Beginning to test tactic
    I'm starting with yours first,then hellroker's.
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 18/07/2010 at 06:16 PM.

  26. If yu could have a crack at mine that would be great.

    Name of Tactic: Ulimate!!!
    Formation: 2-3-2-1-2
    Touchline Shouts: None required
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) YES
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold) Attacking
    Best Team to Use: Any top team (Chelsea)

    Many thanks
    J
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-ultimate-tactic.png  
    Attached Files

  27. Quote Originally Posted by jax751492 View Post
    If yu could have a crack at mine that would be great.

    Name of Tactic: Ulimate!!!
    Formation: 2-3-2-1-2
    Touchline Shouts: None required
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) YES
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold) Attacking
    Best Team to Use: Any top team (Chelsea)

    Many thanks
    J
    I cannot review your tactic since you fall below the minimum post count of 250.Yours,currently is 3.

    I will delay the tactic until you have reached 250 posts.

    Thanks.

  28. need test

    Name of Tactic: 4-3-3 aa
    Formation: 4-3-3 custom
    Touchline Shouts: default
    Use of Playmaker : No
    Attacking
    Best Team to Use:
    dida,
    zambrota, nesta, thiago silva, kaladze
    pirlo, gatuso, beckham,
    pato, borielo, ronaldinho

    this my tactic link
    http://www.4shared.com/file/X0B5Vc3M...Sep_2009_.html

    i hope you'll test my tactic and find some problem with it, my team is less fast creative for attack and poor defence

  29. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Super Moderator
    mashed, you need to make the minimum post sign bigger

  30. Name of Tactic: Ultra Defensive Pro
    Formation: 5-3-1-1
    Touchline Shouts: Play Even Safer, Get stuck in, pump ball into box (last 15 mins)
    Use of Playmaker? NO
    Attacking/Defensive: Defensive
    Best Team to Use: Blackpool, or any team predicted to be relegated. They should mostly not lose matches. You can make the side more attacking in last 15 mins.
    Link: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downl...o=file&id=2769

    Make sure you have a good target man who will finish when he gets the chance.
    Last edited by The Shots; 18/07/2010 at 07:56 PM.

  31. Name of Tactic: Ben's 4-3-1-2
    Formation: 4-3-1-2
    Touchline Shouts: No
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: Arsenal/Real Madrid
    (Link tactic here)

    When playing against the bigger teams, change the strategy to counter
    Attached Files

  32. Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Name of Tactic: Ben's 4-3-1-2
    Formation: 4-3-1-2
    Touchline Shouts: No
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: Arsenal/Real Madrid
    (Link tactic here)

    When playing against the bigger teams, change the strategy to counter
    Status: Currently listed for testing

    ---------- Post added at 08:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:34 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by themadsheep2001 View Post
    mashed, you need to make the minimum post sign bigger
    Better now?

    ---------- Post added at 08:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by The Shots View Post
    Name of Tactic: Ultra Defensive Pro
    Formation: 5-3-1-1
    Touchline Shouts: Play Even Safer, Get stuck in, pump ball into box (last 15 mins)
    Use of Playmaker? NO
    Attacking/Defensive: Defensive
    Best Team to Use: Blackpool, or any team predicted to be relegated. They should mostly not lose matches. You can make the side more attacking in last 15 mins.
    Link: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downl...o=file&id=2769

    Make sure you have a good target man who will finish when he gets the chance.
    Quote Originally Posted by vasily View Post
    Name of Tactic: 4-3-3 aa
    Formation: 4-3-3 custom
    Touchline Shouts: default
    Use of Playmaker : No
    Attacking
    Best Team to Use:
    dida,
    zambrota, nesta, thiago silva, kaladze
    pirlo, gatuso, beckham,
    pato, borielo, ronaldinho

    this my tactic link
    http://www.4shared.com/file/X0B5Vc3M...Sep_2009_.html

    i hope you'll test my tactic and find some problem with it, my team is less fast creative for attack and poor defence
    Statuses: Currently listed for testing

    ---------- Post added at 08:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by vasily View Post
    Name of Tactic: 4-3-3 aa
    Formation: 4-3-3 custom
    Touchline Shouts: default
    Use of Playmaker : No
    Attacking
    Best Team to Use:
    dida,
    zambrota, nesta, thiago silva, kaladze
    pirlo, gatuso, beckham,
    pato, borielo, ronaldinho

    this my tactic link
    http://www.4shared.com/file/X0B5Vc3M...Sep_2009_.html

    i hope you'll test my tactic and find some problem with it, my team is less fast creative for attack and poor defence
    Your request for your tactic to be tested will be delayed until you have met the minimum post count of 250.

    Until then,yours will be on hold.

  33. Well I have two great tactics, but for now I will just add this,

    Name of Tactic: Stigen 4-2-3-1
    Formation: 4-2-3-1
    Touchline Shouts: Get Ball Forward, Work Ball Into Box, Hassle Opponents, Get Stuck in
    Use of Playmaker? Yes/No (Default)
    Attacking/Defensive
    Best Team to Use: Any Team
    Stigen 4-2-3-1.tac

    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-formations.pngMashed's Tactic Testing Thread-teaminstructions.png

    Other Info: The left central midfielder (highlighted in screenshot) with the role of Advanced Playmaker is the most important player in your team. If any transfers done, buy this position the best player available if not already in team.

  34. Quote Originally Posted by stigen View Post
    Well I have two great tactics, but for now I will just add this,

    Name of Tactic: Stigen 4-2-3-1
    Formation: 4-2-3-1
    Touchline Shouts: Get Ball Forward, Work Ball Into Box, Hassle Opponents, Get Stuck in
    Use of Playmaker? Yes/No (Default)
    Attacking/Defensive
    Best Team to Use: Any Team
    Attachment 88388

    Attachment 88392Attachment 88393

    Other Info: The left central midfielder (highlighted in screenshot) with the role of Advanced Playmaker is the most important player in your team. If any transfers done, buy this position the best player available if not already in team.
    Status: Currently listed for testing

  35. Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-villarreal-c.f.-s..d..pngMashed's Tactic Testing Thread-liga-bbva-2.png

    Name of Tactic: 4-2-4 Birmingham Fluid
    Tactic tested with: Villarreal
    Signings: Joe Cole,Ledley King,Paulo Ferreira and Sidney Govou
    Best Result: Villarreal 2-0 Zaragoza
    Worst Result: Racing Santander 0-0 Villarreal
    Changes to tactic:
    • Changed left centre back to covering Limited Defender
    • Changed fullbacks to automatic
    • Changed CM to supporting Deep-Lying Playmaker.
    Touchline shouts: None

    The Good:
    • Nice fluid,attacking play.
    • Poachers make it hard to defend against.
    • Wingers cut inside to create opportunities.
    The Bad:
    • Wingers sometimes cut inside too much.
    • Poachers can sometimes miss important crosses.
    • Defence is not solid enough.
    • Can become quite inconsistent against smaller clubs.
    Recommended:
    • Play a supporting Target Man instead of two poachers.
    • Direct the play to the flanks for more expansive passing and space-creating.
    • Have only one winger cut inside,not both.
    • Play a Limited Defender in your backline.
    • Play a quicker tempo.
    • Use zonal marking.
    Verdict:

    A tactic that needs a bit of work.Strengthening the defence and improving on the centre of midfield by possibly playing a defending defensive midfielder so that he is a 'Destroyer' of the opposition attacks would benefit the defence more seeing as how they wouldn't have to rely on one-another to clear the ball away when in danger.

    Playing a supporting Target Man may help you because of the playing of wingers would be an advantage for you to get some headed goals by a tall,strong striker.The poacher would play on the shoulder of the last defender and would be a constant thorn in the backside of the defenders whilst the target man holds up the play for more options.

    Could be better with some more tinkering.

    Rating: 6.7/10
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 19/07/2010 at 06:11 PM.

  36. Hi, can you maybe mention which tactic you've just tested? I can't tell. Interesting thread by the way, looking forward to seeing you test more. I won't hit 250 posts until FM2025 but until then, I think I can pick up some useful hints just from reading your suggestions on other people's tactics.

  37. Quote Originally Posted by loveangel View Post
    Hi, can you maybe mention which tactic you've just tested? I can't tell. Interesting thread by the way, looking forward to seeing you test more. I won't hit 250 posts until FM2025 but until then, I think I can pick up some useful hints just from reading your suggestions on other people's tactics.
    Haha,course.

    Ermm,I feel that it's locked horns between madsheep and PokerJoker_num's tactics.

    Both similar in attacking play and domination but have very solid defences which are proven to break down.

    I couldn't decide between the two for obvious reasons

    EDIT-

    Whoops,embarrassment,I think I maybe answered that strangely,but I don't know if I have or not
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 18/07/2010 at 09:49 PM.

  38. I would like to see this tactic tested


    Name of Tactic: .....................David Villa, Narrow Diamond v18

    Formation: 41212, a Narrow Diamond, the one in the right bottom corner in the SS
    Touchline Shouts: Yes, as beneath
    Use of Target Man: Yes, the FCleft
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: any team that has these players

    Link

    ****The focus passing is through the middle









    To go more Attacking

    * Strategy - Attack – increases mentality, tempo and width , adds bombing fullback
    * Shout - Exploit the flanks or overlaps
    * Shout - Pass ball into space


    To go more defensive

    * Strategy - Counter, reduces mentality, tempo and with
    * Shout - Retain possession-. Reduces the tempo
    * Shout- Take a breather – Reduces runs from deep

    To counter the opponent


    * Strategy - Counter - reduces mentality, tempo and with
    * Shout- Pass ball into space – adds more t-balls


    Fullbacks – Normal fullbacks
    Central defenders – Pace is needed
    DMC – Creative and Intelligent( for the level playing at) Can be used as a playmaker
    Wingers - Should be able to carry out both attacking and defensive duties
    AMC – Scoring machine
    FCleft – Strong Target Man
    FCright – Quick poacher with Aeriel ability

  39. Quote Originally Posted by TheBetterHalf View Post
    I would like to see this tactic tested


    Name of Tactic: .....................David Villa, Narrow Diamond v18

    Formation: 41212, a Narrow Diamond, the one in the right bottom corner in the SS
    Touchline Shouts: Yes, as beneath
    Use of Target Man: Yes, the FCleft
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: any team that has these players

    Link

    ****The focus passing is through the middle









    To go more Attacking

    * Strategy - Attack – increases mentality, tempo and width , adds bombing fullback
    * Shout - Exploit the flanks or overlaps
    * Shout - Pass ball into space


    To go more defensive

    * Strategy - Counter, reduces mentality, tempo and with
    * Shout - Retain possession-. Reduces the tempo
    * Shout- Take a breather – Reduces runs from deep

    To counter the opponent


    * Strategy - Counter - reduces mentality, tempo and with
    * Shout- Pass ball into space – adds more t-balls


    Fullbacks – Normal fullbacks
    Central defenders – Pace is needed
    DMC – Creative and Intelligent( for the level playing at) Can be used as a playmaker
    Wingers - Should be able to carry out both attacking and defensive duties
    AMC – Scoring machine
    FCleft – Strong Target Man
    FCright – Quick poacher with Aeriel ability
    Wow,you've really gone to town with this.

    Status: Currently listed for testing

  40. Gaffer's Avatar GafferPremium Member
    Premium Member
    wanna say i think this is a brilliant idea for a thread, good work i'll be posting a tactic soon, and it's quite strange

    Name of Tactic: "Playing It Simple"
    Formation: 4-2-2-2
    Touchline Shouts: None, old style tactics.
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: No specific team, obviousley works better with Real Madrid or so, but I think is quite effective with teams like Roma, Tottenham etc.

    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-team-instructions.png
    Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-formation.png


    http://www.mediafire.com/?i1nxqclyav5jrdx
    Last edited by Gaffer; 19/07/2010 at 08:18 AM.

  41. Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    wanna say i think this is a brilliant idea for a thread, good work i'll be posting a tactic soon, and it's quite strange
    Thanks

    Will list you once you've uploaded it.

  42. Gaffer's Avatar GafferPremium Member
    Premium Member
    wanna say i think this is a brilliant idea for a thread, good work i'll be posting a tactic soon, and it's quite strange

    Name of Tactic: "Playing It Simple"
    Formation: 4-2-2-2
    Touchline Shouts: None, old style tactics.
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: No specific team, obviousley works better with Real Madrid or so, but I think is quite effective with teams like Roma, Tottenham etc.

    Central defenders need to be good at heading, as the idea is when the opposition clear the call you can head it straight back to your team and it's continuous attacking



    [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?i1nxqclyav5jrdx"]http://www.mediafire.com/?i1nxqclyav5jrdx[/URL

  43. Name of Tactic: Enn balanced assymetryc
    Formation: 4-1-1-3-1, wide formation, playing with false 9, a lot of roaming from position and direct passes.
    Touchline Shouts: sometimes Pass into space
    Use of Target Man: no, complete forward who drops off and lets the inside forwards cut inside
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: ones with pacy full backs/wing backs, high defensive line, CM with good passing ability/controlling the tempo and pacy forwards with good finishing ability.

    Players needed:
    GK: Good on 1 on 1's, decent aerial ability and pace. May act as a sweeper keeper if he has the abilities.

    LWB/LB pace, decent marking, crossing ability and passing.
    RWB/RB same as above, more defensive oriented attributes would be a plus.
    CB's one should have decent ball playing abilities as his role shows(passing,concentration, etc.)
    DM - acts like an anchor man - good defensive abilities, passing, long shots would be a plus.
    CM - acts like a playmaker, should have concentration/decisions/passing/creativity/technique/pace and dribblling. Xavi/Scholes type of player preffered.
    AM - playmaking functions but more advanced, with the role to cut inside - pace, technique,passing, dribbling - Iniesta/Gourcuff type of player.
    Inside forwards - technique/creativity/dribbling and aforemented finishing. Long shots would be a plus - Messi/Ronaldo/Di Maria etc..
    Complete forward - Rooney/Villa/Torres type of player - good at finishing/dribbling, positioning and off the ball. Long shots is a plus.
    Attached Files

  44. Quote Originally Posted by koko5678 View Post
    Name of Tactic: Enn balanced assymetryc
    Formation: 4-1-1-3-1, wide formation, playing with false 9, a lot of roaming from position and direct passes.
    Touchline Shouts: sometimes Pass into space
    Use of Target Man: no, complete forward who drops off and lets the inside forwards cut inside
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: ones with pacy full backs/wing backs, high defensive line, CM with good passing ability/controlling the tempo and pacy forwards with good finishing ability.

    Players needed:
    GK: Good on 1 on 1's, decent aerial ability and pace. May act as a sweeper keeper if he has the abilities.

    LWB/LB pace, decent marking, crossing ability and passing.
    RWB/RB same as above, more defensive oriented attributes would be a plus.
    CB's one should have decent ball playing abilities as his role shows(passing,concentration, etc.)
    DM - acts like an anchor man - good defensive abilities, passing, long shots would be a plus.
    CM - acts like a playmaker, should have concentration/decisions/passing/creativity/technique/pace and dribblling. Xavi/Scholes type of player preffered.
    AM - playmaking functions but more advanced, with the role to cut inside - pace, technique,passing, dribbling - Iniesta/Gourcuff type of player.
    Inside forwards - technique/creativity/dribbling and aforemented finishing. Long shots would be a plus - Messi/Ronaldo/Di Maria etc..
    Complete forward - Rooney/Villa/Torres type of player - good at finishing/dribbling, positioning and off the ball. Long shots is a plus.
    Again,you fall below the minimum post count limit,so your tactic will not be reviewed and therefore,ignored until you reach the minimum.

    Next time,please read the OP.

    Thank you.

    ---------- Post added at 03:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:28 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    wanna say i think this is a brilliant idea for a thread, good work i'll be posting a tactic soon, and it's quite strange

    Name of Tactic: "Playing It Simple"
    Formation: 4-2-2-2
    Touchline Shouts: None, old style tactics.
    Use of Playmaker? (Highlight in Bold) Yes/No
    Attacking/Defensive (Highlight in Bold)
    Best Team to Use: No specific team, obviousley works better with Real Madrid or so, but I think is quite effective with teams like Roma, Tottenham etc.

    Central defenders need to be good at heading, as the idea is when the opposition clear the call you can head it straight back to your team and it's continuous attacking



    [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?i1nxqclyav5jrdx"]http://www.mediafire.com/?i1nxqclyav5jrdx[/URL
    Cheers.Adding you to the list and will be soon up for review.

    Status: Currently listed for testing

  45. Quote Originally Posted by mashedPotatoes View Post
    Again,you fall below the minimum post count limit,so your tactic will not be reviewed and therefore,ignored until you reach the minimum.

    Next time,please read the OP.

    Thank you.
    ah, sorry then. I'd write back when reaching the post count. I'm new here both reading and writing on this board.

    Cheers.

  46. Quote Originally Posted by koko5678 View Post
    ah, sorry then. I'd write back when reaching the post count. I'm new here both reading and writing on this board.

    Cheers.
    It's fine.

    I'll delay your request until you've reached 250 posts and,once done,I'll review it.

  47. Nice idea. I could not give my tactic since i'm under 250 post but will keep track on this thread.

  48. Quote Originally Posted by gokhancalis View Post
    Nice idea. I could not give my tactic since i'm under 250 post but will keep track on this thread.
    Nice.

    Will add you to the list as soon as.

  49. Mashed's Tactic Testing Thread-valencia-c.f.-s..d..pngMashed's Tactic Testing Thread-liga-bbva-3.png

    Name of Tactic: Real Madrid Attacking
    Tactic tested with: Valencia
    Signings: Andreas Beck,Artem Milevskyi,Nicolas Otamendi
    Best Result: Valencia 4-0 Hercules
    Worst Result: Atletico Madrid 3-0 Valencia
    Changes to Tactic: None
    Touchline Shouts: None

    The Good:
    • Continually attacking the opposition makes it hard for them to find space.
    • Defensive line can be very sturdy.
    • Strikers have good chances now and again created by the wingers and attacking midfielder.
    The Bad:
    • Attacking Midfielder plays poorly when not selected as the Playmaker.
    • Supporting Deep-Lying Forward does not make much of an impact on the game.
    • Wingers sometimes drift too far off.
    • Poor co-ordination shown between the players.Just keep attacking without much knowledge of how to build it up.
    Recommended:
    • Switch the supporting Deep-Lying Forward into a supporting Target Man so he can score headers from crosses.
    • Set the player in the Advanced Playmaker role as the actual playmaker.
    • Change the supporting Central Midfielder role into a Box To Box Midfielder role.
    Verdict:

    To be honest,I am not surprised that this tactic has not been able to get hugely dominating results.It requires highly skilled players to operate in the roles and,with you having created the tactic when you're in 2014 with Real Madrid,it's clear you're going to have world-class players in your squad to co-ordinate in the roles provided.

    Needs to looked at again with tweaks in it to operate with the first few seasons,not four-five years in.

    Rating: 6.6/10
    Last edited by mashedPotatoes; 19/07/2010 at 06:11 PM.

  50. hellroker's Avatar hellroker
    Modern Day Legend
    Thanks for your suggestions Mashed

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