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alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!

  1. alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!

    ALLA PEP GUARDIOLA 4-6-0

    Possession may not win you every match, so as beautiful football. But when winning, possession and beautiful football are combined together, what more can you wish for? This is what this tactic all about..

    The combination of winning and playing it beautifully is every manager's dream. Defensively solid, organized set pieces and clear cut chances are part of this tactic. The 4-6-0 tactic helps the team to be more creative with their passing and movement off the ball, every single move counts. If you're a Barcelona fans or at least you like this kind of football, then this is the right place for you. This tactic will not guarantee you to win every single matches as there is no tactic that can do so. But you will enjoy the experience of being Pep Guardiola once in a while.

    However, this is not a tactic that you will use for lower leagues as this tactic demands great players. This tactic emulates the work of Pep Guardiola during his last year in FC Barcelona where he exploits the dynamics of Messi and using Cesc Fabregas as False 9. Below is the preview of this tactic, and what you can expect when downloading it. Enjoy.

    THE TACTIC

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-tactics.png

    Formation: 4-6-0
    Match Preparation: Very High - Teamwork (pre-season), Average - Teamwork (rest of the season)
    Pitch Size: Minimum
    This is a classic tactic, you use your MC as your playmaker.

    FABREGAS AS FALSE 9

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-fabregas-false-9.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-fabregas-false-9-2.png

    The role that everyone is waiting for, the False 9. As we can see from the passes made by Cesc Fabregas, he was dropping deep although he plays as an attacking midfield. He also involved in the build up of the attack upfront. I have several videos of Fabregas playing as a False 9 but haven't got the time to upload it. I will try to upload it soon, but if you download this tactic, you will experience the False 9 by yourself.

    XAVI THE PASS MASTER

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-xavi-pass-1.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-xavi-2.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-xavi-3.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-xavi-4.png

    What more can I say about this guy? He was the brain of Barcelona and Spain, without him there will be no trophies. The maestro of the midfield and controller of the tempo. He spreads the ball all over the pitch and runs more than anyone else. That's Xavi.

    THE GENIUS OF INIESTA

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-iniesta.png

    The best Spanish player of all time? Iniesta is everywhere! He dribbles, beats his man, plays one-twos, making great runs, passing the ball and making the flow. The most complete attacking midfielder. Ever. In this tactic, you will not see the 'Iniesta role' make as much passes as Xavi, but he is the creator of KEY PASSES. He provided the pass before the final pass. Simple and genius.

    THE MESSI ROLE

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-messi.png

    Messi, Messi, Messi... The best player of all time and every managers' wishlist. What happened if you're a manager and have Messi on your team? If you're Pep Guardiola, you give him freedom and let him to touch the ball as many time as you can. The 'Messi role' is a bit like the False 9 but more advanced. He drops deep, gets the ball, beats 5 men, creating scoring chances for others and are involved in the built-up. There are no words that can be used to describe him. God.

    ACTION ZONES

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-position-1.png

    This is what you can expect from this tactic. You can see Messi is dropping deep to get the ball, Xavi and Iniesta is besides him to make spaces, Busquets helps the attack but is ready to run back if needed, David Villa stays wide to make the runs, Fabregas hallucinating the opposition defenders as a False 9, Dani Alves join the attack on the right side, Valdes as a sweeper keeper, Pique and Puyol controlling the ball from the half-way line and Abidal is very free with no-one marking him.

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-position-2.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-position-3.png

    The average positions of the tactic. Like in real life, Dani Alves spends his time moving forward and backward across the field with the highest distance covered. You can also see that Busquets is ready to cover Alves and become a third defender besides Puyol and Pique.

    SCORES, POSSESSION AND PASS COMPLETION

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-possession.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-possession-2.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-posssession-3.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-possession-4.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-passes-1.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-passes-2.png

    FIXTURES AND PLAYER STATS

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-scores.png

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-player-stats.png

    I haven't finished the season yet, but this is my overall stats so far (January). I mainly use this tactic for home match. I have the away match tactic which is not finished yet, but i will pot it as soon as I finished it. This is not a tactic for lower league teams, this is a recreational tactic for you to enjoy. If you're interested with this tactic, you can download it from below. Remember, this tactic is still not perfect, you can tweak it yourself to make it better. Enjoy
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    Last edited by dk2910; 06/07/2012 at 06:18 AM.

  2. it looks pretty good mate, nice job!

    however, all the matches are against very weak opponents! against harder teams, Ajax/Real it struggles a bit.. 2:0, 2:1, 3:1 scorelines are quite common and this is not what Barca do really.. there are some very good results of course, but if you are Barca you should be winning most games 3-7:0 to be honest

    The possession is good, but WAY TOO MUCH IN YOUR OWN HALF, its very, very, very easy to rack up passes in your own half and halfway, the crux of possession tactics, or should I say Barca specifically is that the passes are further up the field in the opponents half.. around the edge of the box!

    Centre back is way too involved in passing, that amount should be with another CM instead.. this will help play the game further upfield as well!

    Only 1 player is getting over 100 passes in the midfield, yet plays 1 key pass all game

    I will definitely try it out just for fun, but try and increase the backline to sit on the halfway line and play the game in the opponents half
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  3. hey thanks for the feedback!

    yes i know, sadly, the score is not that high , and i forgot to mention that i don't play the champions league match and CWC, i just use this to test for the home match in la liga. the first fixtures result is really crap, because my tactic is very unorthodox and takes time to get the players connected together. but overall, thanks for the feedback and yes there is still much that can be tweak, hope you enjoy! just for fun
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  4. One question, why does Iniesta have through balls rarely?

  5. i think my only reason to give iniesta a rare through balls is because it functions better for the team. i've tried him with sometimes and often through balls but it didn't work that well. so i'm focusing him to run and create space and pass the ball into feet instead. i'll let xavi, messi and fabregas to put all the killer balls. i personally think that it's better for the team (with this tactic)

    the passing focuses in midfield area, if you want more goals and passes upfront you need to put a striker, but this tactic does not focus on it. it focuses more on possession. in order to create scoring chances you must sacrifice your possession, but for this tactic i choose to sacrifice my scoring chances for possession
    Last edited by dk2910; 04/07/2012 at 02:23 PM.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Raikan007 View Post
    it looks pretty good mate, nice job!

    however, all the matches are against very weak opponents! against harder teams, Ajax/Real it struggles a bit.. 2:0, 2:1, 3:1 scorelines are quite common and this is not what Barca do really.. there are some very good results of course, but if you are Barca you should be winning most games 3-7:0 to be honest

    The possession is good, but WAY TOO MUCH IN YOUR OWN HALF, its very, very, very easy to rack up passes in your own half and halfway, the crux of possession tactics, or should I say Barca specifically is that the passes are further up the field in the opponents half.. around the edge of the box!

    Centre back is way too involved in passing, that amount should be with another CM instead.. this will help play the game further upfield as well!

    Only 1 player is getting over 100 passes in the midfield, yet plays 1 key pass all game

    I will definitely try it out just for fun, but try and increase the backline to sit on the halfway line and play the game in the opponents half
    Always the same comment Raikan

    Though I gotta disagree with you on one thing, Barca doesnt play all the time right at the box area, infact its more like in 40 yards, where they tend to move the ball and then slowly progress forward till the space opens and the final blow is struck.
    Defenders get fairly much of the ball in Barca, especially in those games where they are having more hard time to do thing upfield. The ME aint bright enough to play forward passes but when there aint holes and space to move forward, they must return the ball back to deep and see things again. Thats sad.
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  7. totally agree with you sir,

    barcelona focuses more passing in midfield and the defenders are also involved in the build up

    Barcelona Triangle passing.flv - YouTube
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by dk2910 View Post
    totally agree with you sir,

    barcelona focuses more passing in midfield and the defenders are also involved in the build up

    Barcelona Triangle passing.flv - YouTube
    This kind of progress Ive been doing with my own Barca tactic:

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-barcelona-v-barcelona_b_-split-view-.png alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-barcelona-v-barcelona_b_-analysis_-analysis-.png

    yes just started it and looking forward to more challenging games. Had this tactic done couple weeks ago and in another save I scrapped already, won Arsenal 5 - 0 with it aswell. For me, I prefer more disciplined freedom for the boys so maybe U shud try it out?

  9. wow it's great, surely gonna try it with more disciplined.
    though i haven't played fm for about 2-3 months, but i have made 4-5 different tactics that i will post just for fun
    but thanks for the advice, really appreciate it and surely gonna try it soon! cheers

  10. alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-barcelona-v-osasuna-split-view-.png

    Also trying a Guardiola tactic

  11. This is one of the latest results with a more disciplined approach, though IM overally disappointed that I wasnt able to convert more CCC's considering the amount of key passes. Also got to note that one of them got sent off early in the game. But I think its out of respect for dk2910 to post our results in this thread, these shud be posted to its own or maybe a thread which is already made..

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-al-ittihad-ksa-v-barcelona-split-view-.png alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-al-ittihad-ksa-v-barcelona-analysis_-analysis-.png

  12. Quote Originally Posted by fabregas2 View Post
    Attachment 257882

    Also trying a Guardiola tactic
    wow looks good!!

  13. @Gump
    Yeah I agree but i won't be posting any results soon anyway because I still have a long way to go.

    Just one question though, is it easier making a possession tactic with classic tactics or modern?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Gump View Post
    This is one of the latest results with a more disciplined approach, though IM overally disappointed that I wasnt able to convert more CCC's considering the amount of key passes. Also got to note that one of them got sent off early in the game. But I think its out of respect for dk2910 to post our results in this thread, these shud be posted to its own or maybe a thread which is already made..

    Attachment 257886 Attachment 257887
    hey no problem man post anything you like! this thread is for people who appreciates this kind of tactics

  15. Quote Originally Posted by fabregas2 View Post
    @Gump
    Yeah I agree but i won't be posting any results soon anyway because I still have a long way to go.

    Just one question though, is it easier making a possession tactic with classic tactics or modern?
    i personally think that classic tactic is way more dominant compare to modern. you can make possession/counter and any other tactics more better. but it takes more time as it is very detail for each movement and setplays. but it just a personal opinion

  16. Quote Originally Posted by dk2910 View Post
    i personally think that classic tactic is way more dominant compare to modern. you can make possession/counter and any other tactics more better. but it takes more time as it is very detail for each movement and setplays. but it just a personal opinion

    Agree. Its not about Classic v Tactic Creator though, its about tweaking sliders and settings v Not doing so.
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  17. alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-tottenham-poss1.png alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-tottenham-poss2.png

    Tried several matches with my Tottenham in 2013 and got this

  18. Quote Originally Posted by dk2910 View Post
    Attachment 257927 Attachment 257928

    Tried several matches with my Tottenham in 2013 and got this

    Looking mint tho U need to score more

  19. YES! i think possession tactics will not score that much

    i have another tactics which i will post soon that scores many goals

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-torres-mata.png

    torres and mata just after 22 games (chelsea)

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-hazard-chicarito.png

    hazard and hernandez (tottenham)

    alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-madrid-gd.png

    real madrid goal differences (no loads) - i don't load games
    Last edited by dk2910; 04/07/2012 at 06:43 PM.

  20. Looks really good on paper, would you mind testing with a weaker team and share the results. I am curently on 4 months work and I did not take any laptop so I am away from FM for awhile. However I am really interested in all 4-6-0 tactics.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by insanity View Post
    Looks really good on paper, would you mind testing with a weaker team and share the results. I am curently on 4 months work and I did not take any laptop so I am away from FM for awhile. However I am really interested in all 4-6-0 tactics.
    sure! i'm going to test it with smaller teams, but don't expect too much from it

  22. this my first post ever. Your tactic is just awesome, and it gave me an urge to thank you personally. Right now I'm currently making a tactic that is based on yours, I will post it once it's ready. Thank you for this amazing tactic
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  23. by the way, I can't seem to prevent my defenders (including the wingbacks) from making long passes, any ideas? their passes completion are really mediocre, mostly around 70%.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by kengo91 View Post
    this my first post ever. Your tactic is just awesome, and it gave me an urge to thank you personally. Right now I'm currently making a tactic that is based on yours, I will post it once it's ready. Thank you for this amazing tactic
    hey thanks for the comment, really looking forward for your tactic!!

  25. Great job mate good result and style of play!
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  26. Wow, so far this is the best tiki-taka tactic I've ever tried! Good job
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  27. alla Pep Guardiola [4-6-0] - constant 80% possession, false 9, and many more!-barcelona-v-valencia-stats_-match-stats-.png

    My first match with the tactic. It looks really good, the 1-0 result will get better until the formation gets more fluid. I have 3 CCC but was wasted. I'm quite surprised of this tactic, I don't expect the weird formation can give this style of play. Bravo
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  28. looking good, mate!

  29. I would like an anti-football tactic

  30. Tried several matches with Arsenal and doing well. Looking forward for the away tactic, I use the tactic for home matches and works perfect. I personally think that this tactic is one step above all other tactics. When using it, I realized that the opposition team plays defensively, really high pressing and hard tackling. It forces the opposition to play an-anti football. I've been playing FM since 2003 and I know that it is hard to make this kind of tactic with such un-ordinary formation. The big guns should take notice. You're doing really good here.

  31. thanks for your respond, i'm glad its been positive so far. i'm trying to make an anti-football tactic cheers

  32. Interesting. I'll try

  33. If you want a possesion tactic there is only one place to look ........ tacticzz possesion break is simply immense and once you get it fluid you will start to turn possesion into CCC's i had 92% once using his tactic and my playmaker ( a regen ) got 200+ passes

  34. Quote Originally Posted by Sinnott99 View Post
    If you want a possesion tactic there is only one place to look ........ tacticzz possesion break is simply immense and once you get it fluid you will start to turn possesion into CCC's i had 92% once using his tactic and my playmaker ( a regen ) got 200+ passes
    Can you send us the link to this tactic please? It sounds amazing!

  35. Quote Originally Posted by parsfan37 View Post
    Can you send us the link to this tactic please? It sounds amazing!
    Search the forum for it, Hazza22299 thread


  36. hello i am sory for my english first.i have big request can you do this tactic for fm 2012? i mean without wings this look from fm 2012

  37. I take my hat off to anyone trying to "play Pep" in FM with Barca's tactic; a tactic that exists only on paper and before kick off. Because Barca doesn't have a tactic, they have a system.

    The $64 million dollar question is
    : how do you replicate a system which is based upon movement on and off the ball, 1-2 touches, high pressing, 3-4 passing lines and above all positional compensation in defensive and attacking organisational phase.
    (Hence the appearance of not only the false 9 -Messi-but the false 2-Dani Alves-or false DM-Busquets-or false LW-David Villa)

    How do you replicate all this with a Match Engine that refuse to leave its pre-historic infancy, while tools to give it a high quality jump to a modern era have been around for a while.

    So, to all of you, keep up your "labour of love". Take a bow son, HAT OFF...

  38. AlanM92's Avatar AlanM92
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    Looks like a good tactic. Also, where did you get your skin from? Is it from FM-Base?

  39. Will be great when the away tactic is released. Love the home tactic.

  40. Great stuff

  41. why does messi have holds up ball? i have seen a few barca tactics and they all seem to have it, what is the benefit?

    cheers

  42. very good job, and very good tactic

  43. when relace final version.

    how improve this tactic, any sugestions.

    ty<

  44. why is it when i place the tactic where it should be and i want to use it i get a error "Could not load file" am i doing something wrong, im placing the file in C:\Users\Dna\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2012\Tactics

    i should say i get the key for the full version on monday, im using the beta for now.

  45. It doesn't work anymore for fm 2013 it seems, anyone any luck getting this to work for fm 2013?

    I started building my team and training ppm's with this tactick in mind so I'd rather not have to change everything

  46. I didnt see tactic link can you tell me where is the tactic link?

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