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  1. The Gary Speed Tribute Challenge

    A tribute to a Welshman with a vision. Gary Speed a true cult hero for many, a legend for some, one to be remembered for all. As a salute to Gary Speed's dedication to the welsh national team I've devised a challenge for people to try to emulate and surpass Gary's vision. Bring Glory to Wales, start with the foundations, a solid youth team. So, I thought that I'd make a spin off from the San Marino Challenge. This one requires a little less dedication, since Swansea are already in the Prem, and Cardiff are in the Championship. However, The main aspect to this Challenge is to harvest young welsh talent and turn the national side into a contender. Now, Let's all think for a moment about the Barca team, That is a perfect example of home grown talent. Emulate that and bring pride to Wales!

    We've taken many suggestions from last season and the main one seems to be managers wanting to add the Welsh Premier league into the fold. We are very keen to do this and it is in the works - so if you want to manger Bangor City or TNS go ahead and post on here as part of the challenge and we will eventually add your points onto the chart.

    For a view of Last seasons results click here

    Rules:
    1. Manager To be Welsh - 50% point reduction is enforced on none Welsh managers.
    2. No use of Genie-Scout
    3. No use of Editor



    A point system will be awarded as follows...
    Challenge Swansea Cardiff Wrexham Newport County Colwyn Bay Wales
    Win the PL
    30
    30 30 30 30
    Win the Championship* 20 20 20 20 20
    Win League one* 15 15 15 15 15
    Win League two* 10 10 10 10 10
    Win the Blue Square Premiership* 10 10 10 10 10
    Win the Blue Square North* 10 10 10 10 10
    Win the FA cup 20 20 20 20 20
    Win the Capital One Cup 10 10 10 10 10
    Win the Community Shield 5 5 5 5 5
    Win the Welsh Cup (TBD)





    Win the JPT

    10 10 10
    Win the FA Trophy

    5 5 5
    Qualify For Europa 5 5 5 5 5
    Win Europa 15 15 15 15 15
    Qualify for CL 10 10 10 10 10
    Win CL 20 20 20 20 20
    Win the Super Cup 5 5 5 5 5
    Win the World Club Championship 15
    15
    15
    15
    15

    u18 league win 5 5 5 5 5
    u18 Cup win 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5
    Home Grown Hero* x2 x2 x2 x2 x2
    Welsh U19 Manager*




    10
    Welsh U21 Manager*




    20
    Welsh Manager!*





    30
    4 Associates Trophy





    10
    Euro Qualification




    10
    Euro round of 16




    5
    Euro Round of 8




    5
    Euro Quarter's




    5
    Euro Semi's




    10
    Euro Winners!




    20
    World Cup Qualification




    20
    WC Round of 16




    10
    WC Quarter's




    10
    WC Semi's




    20
    WC Winners!




    40

    * = Can only be achieved if you do not start as the Welsh national manager as well.
    *
    = If your club achieves any of these while boasting an 70% welsh squad your points will be doubled.
    * = If you gain promotion you are entitled to HALF to points awarded to winning the league you are being promoted from.

    For any one interested in signing up, I will create a table or a hall of Fame and add your points as you post your achievements. Please post any questions here, Or contact me on steam! I'll be partaking in the challenge soon. Post screen shots of your achievements so that I can add them to the Gary Speed Challenge league table!

    Thanks goes out to
    JonoMUFC for his input on the creation of this challenge.

    A further thank you to Meynell94 and I7IDanny for their contributions throughout last season. Aannddyy had a good run and deserves a cheers!


    Table of Champions:


    Player
    Swansea
    Cardiff
    Wrexham
    Newport
    Cowlyn Bay
    Wales
    Total
    Kezza96
    275

    30 300
    JonoMUFC

    245


    245
    Wynters 85





    85
    Chris Stevenson




    100
    100
    gogogo golem 60



    40
    100
    faulky10
    75


    75
    Safc-mad-scotty



    40
    40
    Wrexham

    30


    30
    tuckson2.0



    25

    25
    tuckson



    15

    15

    Champions Completed Challenges:

    Chris Stevenson: Qualify for the World Cup (20), Round of Sixteen (10), Quarter Finals (10), Semi Finals (20), Won The World Cup (40)
    JonoMUFC: Won BSP (10), Won nPower 2 (10), Won nPower1 (15), Won the Championship (20), Won the Capital One Cup (10) x2, Qualified for Europa League (5) x2, Won Premier League (30) x3, Qualification for Champions League (10), Won the Champions League (30),
    faulky10: Promotion from BSP (5), Won the nPower 2 (10), Won the nPower 1 (15), Won the JPT (10)
    gogogo golem: Qualification for Europa League (5) x3, Won the Capital One Cup (10) x2, Won the FA Cup (20), Wales Manager (30), Qualify for Euro Cup (10)
    Kezza96: Promotion from Championship (10), Qualified for Champions League (10), Qualified for Europa League (5)
    Wrexham: Won BSP (10), Won nPower 2 (10), Won nPower 1 (15)
    tuckson: Promotion from BSN (5), Won the FAT (10)

    Wynters: Won Capital 1 (10), Europa Qualification (5), FA Cup (20), Won Premier League (30), Champions League Qualification (10) x2,
    tuckson 2.0: Promotion from BSP (5), Promotion from Npower League 2 (5)
    Safc-mad-scotty: Won BSN (10), Won BSP (10), Won Npower League 2 (10)


    Last edited by faulky10; 15/11/2013 at 02:43 AM.

  2. Back on again and this time I shall win!


  3. how many points for winning the top welsh league ?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Bradlad9 View Post
    how many points for winning the top welsh league ?
    We haven't fully decided on a point scale for the Welsh leagues yet. We are up for suggestions if you want to throw a few at us.

    Obviously winning the Welsh Cup would remain the same points total. Winning the WPL would probably be about the same tally as winning the League 2. Around 15 or something. You qualifying for group stages of the CL would increase slightly as it is harder for the welsh teams to battle through the 3 rounds of qualifying.

    But throw some numbers out there that are reasonable and we can discuss the possibility of implementing that into the challenge.


  5. A start! New team inspired by Andy's run last year.
    Last edited by faulky10; 22/10/2012 at 04:08 AM.

  6. PLAY BALL!!!!

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  7. I don't get my copy til next week, but im all aboard for this!
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  8. I7IDanny's Avatar I7IDanny
    Modern Day Legend
    The Bay are back, bitches.
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  9. Well, I'll be starting this! And I'll keep going, I promise!

  10. I am ready.
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  11. I7IDanny's Avatar I7IDanny
    Modern Day Legend
    Bring it.
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  12. Just taken the Wales National Team job, should be interesting

  13. Really wanted to do this, but my story's taken over, sorry guys

  14. Why is it the same amount of points for Swansea to win the PL and with Colywn Bay? Surely you should get more points winning it with Colywn Bay?

  15. I7IDanny's Avatar I7IDanny
    Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumPower View Post
    Why is it the same amount of points for Swansea to win the PL and with Colywn Bay? Surely you should get more points winning it with Colywn Bay?
    I'd assume it's since you'd accumulate more
    points along the way to getting to the PL with the 'Bay as opposed to Swansea.

    EG: Swansea - PL points.
    Colwyn Bay - BSN, BSP, L2, L1, Championship and then PL points.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by I7IDanny View Post
    I'd assume it's since you'd accumulate more
    points along the way to getting to the PL with the 'Bay as opposed to Swansea.

    EG: Swansea - PL points.
    Colwyn Bay - BSN, BSP, L2, L1, Championship and then PL points.

    Spot on Danny, thanks m8.

  17. been a bit busy lately, but finishing August now and I hope a can have a January update in the coming week!

  18. Getting REALLY far with my Welsh team, I think I can get them qualification to the euro's and i'm aiming for a last 16. Here's so far

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson View Post
    Getting REALLY far with my Welsh team, I think I can get them qualification to the euro's and i'm aiming for a last 16. Here's so far

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    looking good Chris! You may be the first on the board with those results.

  20. I have to admit I've not played my save and won't be until the ME is fixed.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by JonoMUFC View Post
    I have to admit I've not played my save and won't be until the ME is fixed.
    Q_Q

  22. Well I've taken wales to the world cup I'll post squad, results etc in a story sometime this week


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

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    Moments like this our priceless!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stevenson View Post
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    Moments like this our priceless!
    haha yeah I bet you were pretty excited during that match 3-3 against Spain very nice.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by faulky10 View Post
    haha yeah I bet you were pretty excited during that match 3-3 against Spain very nice.
    Nervous when extra time and god knows how I watched the penalties

  26. Quote Originally Posted by faulky10 View Post
    A tribute to a Welshman with a vision. Gary Speed a true cult hero for many, a legend for some, one to be remembered for all. As a salute to Gary Speed's dedication to the welsh national team I've devised a challenge for people to try to emulate and surpass Gary's vision. Bring Glory to Wales, start with the foundations, a solid youth team. So, I thought that I'd make a spin off from the San Marino Challenge. This one requires a little less dedication, since Swansea are already in the Prem, and Cardiff are in the Championship. However, The main aspect to this Challenge is to harvest young welsh talent and turn the national side into a contender. Now, Let's all think for a moment about the Barca team, That is a perfect example of home grown talent. Emulate that and bring pride to Wales!

    We've taken many suggestions from last season and the main one seems to be managers wanting to add the Welsh Premier league into the fold. We are very keen to do this and it is in the works - so if you want to manger Bangor City or TNS go ahead and post on here as part of the challenge and we will eventually add your points onto the chart.
    Wales lift World Cup trophy

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    Wales 0-0 England (World Cup Final)


    (Wales won 3-1 on penalties)


    On a warm afternoon at MaracanĂ£, Wales' Aaron Ramsey lived the dream of many a supporter as he lifted the World Cup after Wales' 3-1 World Cup Final penalty win over England.


    The first noteworthy incident of the match proved to be controversial, with Wales seeing a goal disallowed. Striker Wayne Rooney's red card for persistent fouling on 121 minutes put England's position under question.


    In the shootout that followed it turned out to be heartache for England as striker Danny Welbeck missed the final penalty.


    Wales had the better possession but struggled to stay onside when going forward, resulting in broken sequences of play.


    Player of the Match: Joe Hart (England)
    Attendance: 76,000

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    There you have it, I couldn't have asked for a better Final playing against England. I always knew if I got the easy route I could just bank on playing counter attacking with a 5 man defence. It paid off and Wales are champions of the world I'll look at doing a complete story with videos in the near future because I think it's one of those things that will remain special
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  27. There is no way you won the World Cup with Wales without cheating!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Street View Post
    There is no way you won the World Cup with Wales without cheating!
    Well I can tell you now I didn't cheat, a lot of my games either relied on draws that lead to penalties or easy matches. I employed a new formation that would see me attack from the start and have five in defense with counter attacking football when I get a lead. Also in the final you'll see I held them to a boring 0 - 0 but had my players wind up England hoping to get someone sent off which has worked in the past. Rooney of course was the person so take out a key penalty taker plus the morale and fitness have now taken an impact on the team.

    Shoot outs are pot luck and for me I have a great penalty line up. Also you'll notice the year I'm in, most of my welsh line up are regens carefully scouted (I spend hours doing it) so that my line up will be able to compete. At the end of the day most my results where against sub standard teams plus when the big teams come along all I have to do is put a brick wall up and pray something comes off it. Looks how many times it's happened in football. I'll be the first to admit its not even remotely great football and yes it can be boring and cheap to field a defensive team. End of the day I was out to get a result, at any cost.

    Now that I've explained that I'll try get a fixture list of the pc now and I'll transfer it to the iPad and I'll walk you through various things. I won't post a whole detailed thing as I have a busy work schedule between now and my next day off.
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  29. So above is the fixture list, you'll see my first match was a friendly against Argentina. This was deliberate, I had to plan on playing a big team, they where perfect even more so knowing I could potentially play them at any point.



    So we lost, put up a good fight but only so much we can do. Look at the formation then in other matches youll see playing the way I did was no good. A great learning curve, especially when I have brazil.



    Note the new formation, close all the way and we only really win it at the end with a lucky final goal. Either way it's a good start, attacking, using shouts pass to feet play to wings and stand on feet and using bale as a target man.



    This was the one match Gareth Bale really shone through, completely tore up Mexico, I can see why on other saves he's worth so much. Same formation, target man, bale is quite literally holding the team up. Amazing result, but Mexico are not that highly rated (27th in the world)



    Okay so here it is, Brazil. You'll notice the same formation, however I had my team play real rough, I wanted them to hurt Brazil. Now I'll agree playing dirty is wrong but it got dede sent off. That helped us secure a draw, just counter attack and wind them up.




    Now you see Wales is playing a new formation, Bale is now up front causing terror. It works out quite well and the midfield you'll notice is holding most of the game. City start to score late on, they exhausted my team but they held out. The new formation has worked. It was a huge risk changing it against Argentina, they expected Wales to defend and counter, even more so when I told the press that. I love mind games, what a great surprise I thought, bale upfront, nobody expected that.



    Spain was going to be a game I was going to have trouble with. Play rough would be the plan for this. We went down then came back from the dead. 80 minutes gone I switched to overload. Conceded then scored, absolute amazing moment when that happened. The key to the whole thing is the new formation, I'll say here I don't look at anyone elses formation for ideas, use them as templates, I simply toy with ideas on paper and work with I know what's best.

    We won on penalties as you see, I turned the 2d on for this. Great moment all round, I knew my 14 to 12 plus players on penalty stats would do me well (tommorow I'll upload the keeper as I forgot.)

    So the 'cheat' comment now rather annoys me as I thinks it's more luck. Still luck wins it.



    Won't go much in to detail on this one as I'm looking for a draw really. I get a lucky goal right at the end that puts me in the final. So yea you can see that I really held on and then threw everything at them. Either way it worked and a good gamble I thought.



    Game plan was to hold on and get a lucky goal. I also went with a huge gamble of winding the England team up. If it works then someone is going to get sent off, if it doesn't it's me and that could be costly. So look at the midfield, 33% the formation worked well. In the end Rooney got sent off, oh boy did that make me happy for penalties. you'll notice not the best England takers took and I the end that's what cost them.

    So overall youll see I took a gamble on matches, penalties and last minute goals where a big factor. So was playing dirty, but I wouldn't have done anything different. Below are players, world rankings and my tactics. Wales are world champions, it wasn't the best way but it got the job done.









    I'll end it with this from Charles "Mask" Lewis Jr.

    Life is full of influences, It's your application that sets you apart.

    That's something I wrote to myself and completely believe in. You can't be scared to set out to do something in life because you believe it may be similar to something, or because you don't know the clear cut path on how you're going to accomplish your goal or dream!

    Just take a step towards your belief daily - fearlessly, wholeheartedly, digging and dreaming within yourself, believing that as you push on through sacrifice, you will one day stand alone on top of a hill that you created that now encourages and inspires others to chase their dream. Knowing that through tenacity and patience anything can be achieved.

    If you simply believe
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  30. I will add you to the Champions board in the AM. Good looking results there.

  31. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    I'm having a go with Swansea, if I fail I won't come back. Anyone thought about being Swansea and loaning out players by the shipload to Port Talbot and Newport County to drag up the Welsh league and another Welsh side as well? It makes no sense selling players with no value when I can drag up the other Welsh teams.

  32. Quote Originally Posted by gogogo golem View Post
    I'm having a go with Swansea, if I fail I won't come back. Anyone thought about being Swansea and loaning out players by the shipload to Port Talbot and Newport County to drag up the Welsh league and another Welsh side as well? It makes no sense selling players with no value when I can drag up the other Welsh teams.

    Yeah I did that when I was cardiff, sent all my young players to the welsh clubs I had as feeders. I also am trying that with my Wrexham side, although the quality isn't quite as good.
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  33. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by faulky10 View Post
    Yeah I did that when I was cardiff, sent all my young players to the welsh clubs I had as feeders. I also am trying that with my Wrexham side, although the quality isn't quite as good.
    It looks effective, Port Talbot don't look like they'll be that much stronger but they'll be better and I've sent Newport two strikers who are several divisions above their leagues quality so I'm expecting them to be promoted.

  34. Quote Originally Posted by gogogo golem View Post
    It looks effective, Port Talbot don't look like they'll be that much stronger but they'll be better and I've sent Newport two strikers who are several divisions above their leagues quality so I'm expecting them to be promoted.
    Will make a difference in a few years when you take the Wales job, that is for sure, on my FM12 challenge save I was in 2019 with Wales and we were on the brink of forcing ourselves into the top 10. I was the manager of TNS for most of that working on improve tactics and solidifying welsh Talent.
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  35. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    So you also managed TNS to guarantee the Welsh league grew massively? Although it is important to prioritise getting your club to the top first as then you're in a better position to help the rest of Wales. I reckon with a bit of luck you could get five Welsh clubs into the PL and get the Welsh League professional by only managing a Welsh club in England.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by gogogo golem View Post
    So you also managed TNS to guarantee the Welsh league grew massively? Although it is important to prioritise getting your club to the top first as then you're in a better position to help the rest of Wales. I reckon with a bit of luck you could get five Welsh clubs into the PL and get the Welsh League professional by only managing a Welsh club in England.
    Aye, you could probably do that, although I think that would be a harder road. Since you are only managing one club. When I was TNS I was making it to the champions league group stage every year securing millions of pounds for the club. I would easily win the WPL and the welsh cup. My youth squad was full of 4 1/2 star PA players all welsh just waiting to hit the big club. Although I had to sell many of them as they didn't want to play for TNS. The welsh u19 and u21 squads were making it to the finals of almost every tournament they were in. The welsh national team were just starting to get good when fm13 came out lol

  37. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by faulky10 View Post
    Aye, you could probably do that, although I think that would be a harder road. Since you are only managing one club. When I was TNS I was making it to the champions league group stage every year securing millions of pounds for the club. I would easily win the WPL and the welsh cup. My youth squad was full of 4 1/2 star PA players all welsh just waiting to hit the big club. Although I had to sell many of them as they didn't want to play for TNS. The welsh u19 and u21 squads were making it to the finals of almost every tournament they were in. The welsh national team were just starting to get good when fm13 came out lol
    Oh, now I understand. I'm not going to take it that far, I'm just going to loan.

  38. First season with Wrexham was very up and down won some matches by huge margins then slipped up after that losing 3 in a row. Managed to find form just before playoffs and carried it to Wembley.
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  39. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    Well done on promotion Faulky! I'm doing well at the moment and I'll have an update up in the next few days.
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  40. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    Reached January so I am posting league position and transfers so far, I'm also in the semis of the Capital One Cup
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  41. Quote Originally Posted by gogogo golem View Post
    Reached January so I am posting league position and transfers so far, I'm also in the semis of the Capital One Cup
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    I thought Swansea being in 5th was good ... but stoke wow!!!
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  42. I loved the San Marino Challenge for a while, but sort of lost interest. As a Welsh, Cardiff City fan, this appeals to me much, much more. I always start with Cardiff anyway, so I will turn this game into this challenge.

    However, I had a dreadful first season - finished 9th and JUST escaped Job Seekers Allowance. Got rid of some of the deadwood in Helguson, Conway and others.

    Second season isn't going much better either: 1 win, 2 draws and 1 loss. My away form is terrible.

    I do however have what looks like my first Welsh Wonder, Sean Lever:

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  43. Quote Originally Posted by gwilli11 View Post
    I loved the San Marino Challenge for a while, but sort of lost interest. As a Welsh, Cardiff City fan, this appeals to me much, much more. I always start with Cardiff anyway, so I will turn this game into this challenge.

    However, I had a dreadful first season - finished 9th and JUST escaped Job Seekers Allowance. Got rid of some of the deadwood in Helguson, Conway and others.

    Second season isn't going much better either: 1 win, 2 draws and 1 loss. My away form is terrible.

    I do however have what looks like my first Welsh Wonder, Sean Lever:

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    That kid does look good!!! Give him some first team matches during the cups

  44. Yay now that the ME is sorta fixed I can play and look I won the BSP and have been promoted!

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  45. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    Well done on promotion Jono. gwilli that player looks like a gem and striker is probably one of the positions the Welsh national side could do with the most.
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  46. Been a tough season so far. However, My recent good form can hopefully foreshadow a good season!
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    ZOMG, this is probably the best regen I've had come in since I started this challenge back on fm 12, he's amazing and he's born in Wrexham, potential one club hometown boy on its way!

  48. gogogo golem
    Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by JonoMUFC View Post
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    ZOMG, this is probably the best regen I've had come in since I started this challenge back on fm 12, he's amazing and he's born in Wrexham, potential one club hometown boy on its way!
    He's a beast, I think he'll lead your Wrexham side and Wales to many victories.
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  49. Quote Originally Posted by gogogo golem View Post
    He's a beast, I think he'll lead your Wrexham side and Wales to many victories.
    Haha I certainly hope so!
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