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  1. Post Your Frustrations

    The number 1 stop for moaning about your FM save!

    [I will open this on Nov 2nd, to avoid people spamming with bug complaints!]

  2. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Super Moderator
    Quote Originally Posted by Aannddyy View Post
    The number 1 stop for moaning about your FM save!

    [I will open this on Nov 2nd, to avoid people spamming with bug complaints!]
    Arghh Andy you actually need to open the thread!

  3. My main frustration right now all the misinformed people complaining about the match engine and that this is the sole reason they cannot win a game
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  4. Joel`'s Avatar Joel`
    Modern Day Legend
    My fullbacks all think they're Roberto Carlos and insist on trying to score from a 1 degree angle rather than square to the abundance of players in the middle waiting.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by epic terrorist View Post
    My main frustration right now all the misinformed people complaining about the match engine and that this is the sole reason they cannot win a game
    I agree, I don't seem to have any issues with my game at all..........here are my results

    5-4 away Reading
    3-1 home Spartak Moscow
    1-0 home Norwich
    3-1 away Spartak Moscow

    also beat Genoa, Barca, and some portugal team all 1-0 in pre season, I ain't noticed any dodgy defending at all, apart from the game at Reading, but I was 4-1 up then changed my formation to control from attacking, so I put the leak in goals for the tactical tweak..........apart from that it's been standard FM.

  6. SMcManus84's Avatar SMcManus84
    First Team
    Its not just not being able to win.

    I win and take no satisfaction because the goals scored are not realistic, not every goal in football is a 25 yard worldey, nor is it a barn storming run like Giggs goal against arsenal FA cup 99.

    Then comes the gk, one minute he's pulling off a gordon banks style save the next minute he's never even seen a football?

  7. I see why people might be frustrated with the game, match engine etc. But I am enjoying it If you simply take your mind away from the result, it's football as well as the occasional comedy. Superb entertainment.

  8. GK problemsssss

    For example, opponents forward kick the ball really slowly from middle of the pitch, then my gk just watch the ball and do nothing the save. RESULT: I watched slow motion goal.
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  9. The match engine Is unbearable.

    I didnt mind It being abit dodgy the first time round as It was the first time trying It out, fair enough, this Is now the 3rd/4th year with the ability to watch the match and Its got even worse! Its like my players are stupid, they will be running with the ball and then just leave It behind randomly. Goal I just conceded: long ball over the top, my defender has a 7 or 8 yard head start, jogs to the ball, just wins it, but stands there instead of clearing it, gets tackled, then backs away from It, the other player gets it and scores.

    I mean wtf

  10. My main frustration is the fact that SI have released an unfinished game. It could have been the best one yet...

  11. My main frustration is all the people who criticize SI and complain about the match engine. You cant ask a computer program to mimic real life football as its unpredictable. Its as real as football management is going to get on a game so people should just learn to enjoy the game for what it is.
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  12. I've tried creating tactics that score goals, I've tried balanced tactics, defensive tactics, even fully TC tactics and I can't win.

    Most of the time the players pass the ball around fine, they break decently enough, but my strikers barely shoot and this causes the midfield to just take pointless long shots. I know lots of people have been complaining about the ME and others have said it isn't that bad but frankly I just want to know when theres going to be a new patch because right now I'm finding the whole game massively tedious and really can't be bothered playing more than 1 match when I play it.

    I must have played like 35 proper matches and lost 30 of them!

    EDIT: I personally have found that using settings closer to the TC's settings creates a slightly more consistant and less inept team, however I will say that the most obvious flaws are still causing me to not really enjoy the game, I've just found a way to make it more bearable to play!

    2nd EDIT: Or not! the amount of penalties I'm conceding is ridiculous, the amount of goals I'm conceding from crosses is ridiculous, goalkeepers are awful, DC's are abysmal I am seriously disillusioned with this game, its unplayable right now.

    I know FM will improve in the next patch but I don't know if I can be bothered with it until then, I just can't find a reason to play it when its in this condition. The thing I really hate about this is that the improvements in the game outside of the ME are really good and I'm really enjoying those parts of the game but every time I play a match, I have to stop myself from either rage quitting or throwing my laptop at the wall.
    Last edited by helloiamanewlow; 05/11/2012 at 05:16 AM.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Steve* View Post
    My main frustration is all the people who criticize SI and complain about the match engine. You cant ask a computer program to mimic real life football as its unpredictable. Its as real as football management is going to get on a game so people should just learn to enjoy the game for what it is.

    People has a right to critize anything that they bought. Clearly, Match engine of the FM 2013 is not working properly. Therefore, I can not use this (unfinished) product. Every people that bought this game has a right to critize this ME. This is not related with computer programming or real life football. If you earn million euros from only one product, you have to pay its debt. We played old series of this game but I am sure that this match engine of that game is crap. If I cant play the game with lower leage teams, what is equivalent for my money ?

    I am very angry to SI because I can buy only one game per year and I just want to enjoy with game, not to watch silly defenders or blind goalkeepers. I am just a customer that want to use this product everyone else in this website.

  14. I was finding it difficult enough when playing the BETA, but I kept my chin up and told myself it was part of the challenge.

    Since the full release, I can't win a game. I can barely even score a goal. I thought I was some way towards figuring the game out, but I am literally bewildered.

    I don't put any of my frustrations down to the ME, because I feel it runs deeper than that. I'm just finding it way too hard to balance everything.
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  15. Match engine is broken, team talks are broken, defenders are retarded, pitch has turned to ice. Can't believe I spent money on this. Very dissapointed in SI.

  16. people seriously, its a brand new ME give them time, atleast they took a risk in CHANGING the game making it interesting with new features and for everyones information EA Sports just released an update for the PC version of Fifa13 so it aint just FM13 that has some problems as alot of people are saying this wouldnt happen with EA Sports...give them time to fix the problems with the NEW features and if u feel its un-playable then play FM12 till the patches are released

  17. The management side of the game has been great, but on the field has been a nightmare. I have seen sieves less leaky than my defence. This could just be down to me not being very good at the game but what ever I try I seem to be conceding 25yrd wonder strikes as well as play running straight through my defence.
    Have to say though, after not buying last years game and making do with LFCMarshals transfer updates the changes to the management side have been nice, even if the interface has taken some getting used to. Also the matches look alot better compared to FM11, the players look like they are kicking the ball. All I need now are the results to start coming...

  18. 10 things i hate about FM2013

    1) i still couldn't get more than 60% possession consistently even with every players including goalkeeper set passing to the shortest
    2) goalkeeper didn't distribute the ball to the player i asked him to
    3) strikers/wingers can score goal from the most acute angle possible
    4) strikers can easily out-sprint my defenders and score goals no matter how bad his acceleration was compared to my defender
    5) tactics keep on disappearing during the match!
    6) ...ok i kid. just 5.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by sickx View Post
    10 things i hate about FM2013
    1) 60% possession is huge. Don't think of it as '10 points more than 50%', think of it as having the ball for 50% longer than the other team. You will only get 50% more possession than another team, even a pretty bad one, if they park the bus and refuse to attempt to win the ball outside the penalty area.

    5) There's an 'auto-hide' option somewhere you can turn off. Sorry, don't have time to dig out exactly where, but it was annoying me as well so I looked and found it :-)

  20. I couldn`t agree more! I have exacly the same issues! My CD`s just stand and watch their strikers run past them and score! My CM`s have 7-9 shots on goal pr. match ( even when longshots is rarely ) while my strikers are hardly in the game ( Rvp and Rooney have less than 7.0 average rating after 14 games, Rvp scored 5, Rooney 1 ) The only positions that seems to somewhat work decently is the wingers ( ive played Kagawa as a AP on the left and valencia as a winger on the right ). valencia has like 12-15 crosses into the box but nooen there to score! Im gonna take a break from the game, huugly dissapointed to be honest, feels like wasting time playing right now.. Hope things get better..

  21. I couldn`t agree more! I have exacly the same issues! My CD`s just stand and watch their strikers run past them and score! My CM`s have 7-9 shots on goal pr. match ( even when longshots is rarely ) while my strikers are hardly in the game ( Rvp and Rooney have less than 7.0 average rating after 14 games, Rvp scored 5, Rooney 1 ) The only positions that seems to somewhat work decently is the wingers ( ive played Kagawa as a AP on the left and valencia as a winger on the right ). valencia has like 12-15 crosses into the box but nooen there to score! Im gonna take a break from the game, huugly dissapointed to be honest, feels like wasting time playing right now.. Hope things get better..

    ** This was a reply too Helloiamanewlow **
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  22. Don't get me wrong but when you pay for a product that is expected to be finished and it's not that is a rip-off. If you buy a new car and has no breaks will you continue to drive it until its recalled? Would it be put for sale in the first place? Then why is it that when it comes to PC games the gamers accept buying an unfinished or faulty product?

    We have only ourselves to blame for letting our expectations be raised by the publishers every single time, regardless of the game or publisher and to not act upon when the product is not according.
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  23. The game isnt finished as simple as that wont be buying nexted years until feb if i do at all that is

  24. just a quick question didnt know where to post it but i started an online game with my mate then started a game just for me and its on sat/wed games if i unclick it will the next season go back to normal or will i have to start again thanks for your time

  25. Hi guys,

    hope this is the right place.

    This is more a potential frustration:
    I've got the demo and noticed that some players seems to be missing. I'm playing as mighty Bath City and they seem to be missing about 4 first team regulars who have been with the club for the whole of the season and most/all of the pre-season. Is there any reason for them to be missing, and are they featured in the full game?

    More than happy to give names if someone with the full game could have a quick look for me!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by sned View Post
    Hi guys,

    hope this is the right place.

    This is more a potential frustration:
    I've got the demo and noticed that some players seems to be missing. I'm playing as mighty Bath City and they seem to be missing about 4 first team regulars who have been with the club for the whole of the season and most/all of the pre-season. Is there any reason for them to be missing, and are they featured in the full game?

    More than happy to give names if someone with the full game could have a quick look for me!

    Correct me if I am wrong. Database locked 4 weeks ago, so it will change only in January

  27. i thought I'd expand on my previous post last night by saying that its not the 'difficulty' of the new game that annoys me its the fact that its only made difficult through flaws in the match engine (or 'fake difficulty' to quote TV Tropes).

  28. Quote Originally Posted by seruven View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong. Database locked 4 weeks ago, so it will change only in January
    Hmm, these players have definitely all been with Bath for longer than that, and a couple are relatively high profile.

    The names are Aaron Brown, Kerry Morgan, Brad Norris and Noah Keats. If someone has time to have a look it would be much appreciated. Seems odd to leave these players out but include a player (Lamar Powell) who played one game a while ago and hasn't been seen since!

    Cheers.

  29. finding it quite hard to make players execute MY orders and instructions atm. Winning most of the games as I was able to put together a pretty good squad with my San Marino team, but players are doing pretty much the opposite of what I've planned...

  30. Just finished 3rd in the league with QPR, and I didnt get any prize money... so i also got 1 million to buy for this summer.. FML

  31. The number one frustration is the stupid way my coaches' training is randomly re-assigned. Have to remember to check before pressing continue!

  32. I wish I'd read this thread before buying the game....The ME is very disappointing. Losing to massive underdogs again and again despite playing as Velez. It's not about losing, it's about realism and there's only so much time I'm prepared to invest if the game constantly has me losing to sides 2-0 after 30 shots on goal and 3 against. Watching players string 20-30 passes together only for strikers to simply hold up the ball and pass back to mid-field for a hapless long shot to sail into the crowd is zero fun.

    Won't touch this inept offering until there's a decent patch...
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  33. My main fustration is, like everyone else, the defending.
    But i have to say now i've actually got into the main season, so far so good

    Man utd 2-1 Reading
    QPR 1-2 Man utd

    The results are besides the point, in pre season, players we're running straight past, and scoring everytime they hit a shot, now in the season it seems a touch more realistic.

  34. CJACKO11's Avatar CJACKO11
    Modern Day Legend
    I must say i am enjoying FM less and less with every new addition. I don't care if i don't win week in week out etc but there is just no realism at all. Whether i have deployed any tactics or not my side should be good enough to win pre-season friendlies against much smaller sides comfortably. Just played the community shield and although i only lost 2-0 to City which i wouldn't have minded but i failed to register a single shot and they had like 30! Game for me is getting more and more unrealistic which is a huge shame because i love the series.
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  35. Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by CJACKO11 View Post
    I must say i am enjoying FM less and less with every new addition. I don't care if i don't win week in week out etc but there is just no realism at all. Whether i have deployed any tactics or not my side should be good enough to win pre-season friendlies against much smaller sides comfortably. Just played the community shield and although i only lost 2-0 to City which i wouldn't have minded but i failed to register a single shot and they had like 30! Game for me is getting more and more unrealistic which is a huge shame because i love the series.
    I am struggling quite a bit with Chelsea on my first save. 7th after 21 games but saying that I do have 3 games in hand and if I win atleast 2 of those I should shoot up to 4th-3rd but still my team are so inconsistant and concede late in matches quite alot. I am currently on a 10 game unbeaten run in the league but 6 of those games have been draws and I think 4 of those draws have been down to conceding an equaliser in injury time.

    Fernando Torres seems to be very strange on my game too one game he is fantastic scores a couple then the next he has a shocker and so on.

  36. pompey have buszaky signed like 3-4 weeks ago Mikkel andersen signed for first league game and not there still at reading really????

  37. To many goals conceded, defending is awfull this year, and i am a very detailed manager, I always do the player instructions for every player, set pieces, training is set to defending and defending positioning, team instructions are set it`s just not working! First game of the season vs. Arsenal 4-4, I barely came out of it alive, every chance goal, keeper (Lloris) not even close to defend it from tight angles and long shots. I undestand when Cazorla shoots banana shots but when Chamakh gives through balls for Giroud my Vertonghen goes the other way. Awfull!
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  38. Modern Day Legend
    Quote Originally Posted by cfc12345 View Post
    I am struggling quite a bit with Chelsea on my first save. 7th after 21 games but saying that I do have 3 games in hand and if I win atleast 2 of those I should shoot up to 4th-3rd but still my team are so inconsistant and concede late in matches quite alot. I am currently on a 10 game unbeaten run in the league but 6 of those games have been draws and I think 4 of those draws have been down to conceding an equaliser in injury time.

    Fernando Torres seems to be very strange on my game too one game he is fantastic scores a couple then the next he has a shocker and so on.
    going back on this I was just 4-2 up against Sunderland 10 minutes to go dominating the match and suddenly they score 2 in 2 minutes and I draw 4-4. Really pissing me off now.

  39. Having to play with just text commentary as the match engine is frustrating, wingers shot from ridiculous angles, and also not really a complaint, but most goals come from midfield, not strikers.
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  40. the main problem for me is form. I went on a 12 run unbeaten spree with spurs. lost one and then all of a sudden i havent won in 6.

    its just not realistic. I beat man u, city and liverpool in that run and now i get beat by reading who are 20th with 2 points.

    its happened to me every file i have had on 13. needs fixing.
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  41. Just to clarify, is the game just harder to play or is there problems with it?

  42. - Defenders can't defend for toffee.
    - You want to play like Barcelona? Your GK will do his best to make sure you play like Stoke! (HOOF)
    - GKs let in appalling efforts.
    - Terrible teams seem to play mindblowing one-touch football against you. Possibly linked with this, I always seem to see bad teams very high up the table.
    - Players seem to play at a rapid tempo despite being instructed to play a slow possession game (which worked exceptionally well on FM 12). Because of this, possession tactics just don't work, and every game seems to involve >10 shots from both sides...No control at al.
    - Too many long-shots despite all my players being told not to. (and no, this isn't down to PPMs, and it isn't down to me allocating too much creative freedom)
    - Team talks. Surely I don't need to elaborate on this? I think that not even a speech from Winston Churchill could motivate these players! You're winning 1-0 at half term, well done (calmly), *seemed confused* /sigh

    That's just off the top of my head - Basically I'm waiting for a patch to fix this game and have gone back to FM 12 for the time being. I'm not complaining for the sake of it; I'm no noob and have enjoyed all the games so far, but I can see the above problems and they absolutely must be fixed.
    Last edited by tikitactics; 05/11/2012 at 06:41 PM.
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  43. Haha, what a game.. In the begin it's hopefull, but when it really starts ..

    -Strikers needs so many chances, and the team I'm playing against just need one or two chances to score 4.
    -Goals getting rejected for your team

    Just right now, three goals got rejected in one game. They all followed each other up. The other team (FC Zwolle) scored in the 92th minute the 1-0. And they are a team that just got promoted this season.

    List of games: View image: Vitesse

    Hate 2 play it. Can't wait untill the update/patch.
    Last edited by Abou81; 05/11/2012 at 07:42 PM.

  44. Luis Aragones Legacy's Avatar Luis Aragones Legacy
    First Team
    I was winning 4-0 at sturm graz with manchester city and lot the game 5-4 (tis could simply be FMC or my computer) I restarted a proper fm league with man city again and I lost the first game to wigan missingone penalty and three shots from the small box. It's monday 5th an there' an update fo footie manager I hope they fixeed at least the empty net misses.

  45. How about this for a frustration, royal mail supposedly couldn't post my FIRST CLASS copy through the letter box even though its perfectly possible to do so. Then I go to the depot to find it and they can't find it. I've had to wait all weekend for a call and finally getting it tomorrow- very angry >

  46. Quote Originally Posted by Steve* View Post
    My main frustration is all the people who criticize SI and complain about the match engine.
    People have a right to complain bro, I spent $40 on this game and don't get me wrong I LOVE the football Manager series, but so far for me anyway in its current state its completely unplayable and not enjoyable at all. Very disappointing and hoping for a good patch soon.

  47. Quote Originally Posted by tikitactics View Post
    - Team talks. Surely I don't need to elaborate on this? I think that not even a speech from Winston Churchill could motivate these players! You're winning 1-0 at half term, well done (calmly), *seemed confused* /sigh.
    While I will concur that there is definitely a problem getting a reaction during team talks, maybe you could try being passionate. Or, depending on who you're playing against, tell them to not get complacent and to see the game out.

  48. Quote Originally Posted by Matty96 View Post
    How about this for a frustration, royal mail supposedly couldn't post my FIRST CLASS copy through the letter box even though its perfectly possible to do so. Then I go to the depot to find it and they can't find it. I've had to wait all weekend for a call and finally getting it tomorrow- very angry >
    This is for frustrations about the actual game, not the Royal Mail.

  49. My repeated attempts to get my liverpool save to be decent is infuriating.
    I consistently beat the top teams (man u 1-2 liverpool) (liverpool 6-2 chelsea) (liverpool 5-3 man city) and then lose rediculously to teams like southampton and neftci baku. lost to southampton 5-1.

    The lower teams seem to play like barcelona it is rediculous and my defenders just dont defend.

  50. Have to agree with most people in this thread, regarding ME etc.

    People saying we are wrong to be criticising the game need to think again. If you pay money for something you expect it to be finished.

    This will be my last year buying Football Manager. For me, FM'09 was it's peak. What a game that was. Ever since, I feel it has went down hill and this year is the final straw. My players can't even learn tactics?!?!!??! No matter what I do?!

    Fed up with the game already. Sort it soon SI, or I'm out.
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