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  1. Dont suppose they have added a dark skin? or was it just ME changes?

  2. anyone have any feedback on the ME changes so far? stuck at work, i'm so anxious to get home and play ths i'm nearly burning a hole in the carpet!!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by veez View Post
    anyone have any feedback on the ME changes so far? stuck at work, i'm so anxious to get home and play ths i'm nearly burning a hole in the carpet!!
    Haha i completely agree with you dude!! I am seriously contemplating nipping home during my hour lunch to load up steam and start the download in the hopes that it'll be ready.

    Sad i know
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by kj94c View Post
    Haha i completely agree with you dude!! I am seriously contemplating nipping home during my hour lunch to load up steam and start the download in the hopes that it'll be ready.

    Sad i know
    Download will take you no time at all mate!

  5. Took me only a few minutes to download this late last night,and yeah guys it does make a fair difference to be honest.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by thomas_e View Post
    Download will take you no time at all mate!
    Even if you got poor broadband like me? Brill!! And i've been told i don't have to work overtime tonight too!!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by kj94c View Post
    Even if you got poor broadband like me? Brill!! And i've been told i don't have to work overtime tonight too!!
    Yeah, it's only 50mb exactly I think! Just start the download, read up on some tactical tweaks for the patch, and start convincing yourself that the need for sleep is only in your mind
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  8. must be good i just scored as we call a "wondergoal" from the halfway line!!!!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    go to steam, right click on FM, go to properties. click local files and verify game cache
    LIFE SAVER

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kj94c View Post
    Haha i completely agree with you dude!! I am seriously contemplating nipping home during my hour lunch to load up steam and start the download in the hopes that it'll be ready.

    Sad i know
    lol true! dude i even bring my laptop to work just so i can play on the train. problem is, having my laptop open at work is a big no no! hopefully i can get down to downloading the patch at lunch time too!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by thomas_e View Post
    Yeah, it's only 50mb exactly I think! Just start the download, read up on some tactical tweaks for the patch, and start convincing yourself that the need for sleep is only in your mind
    have u found a thread with tactical tweaks or suggestions for the new patch?

  12. if i've already started a game, would the game automatically update or do i have to start the game again from the start?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by veez View Post
    have u found a thread with tactical tweaks or suggestions for the new patch?
    No official thread no, but I've noted a few points from forums and the games I've played myself:

    - The tactics that almost had as a goal to get crosses at the back post where your winger would be unmarked will not be as effective.

    - You probably might want to reduce your closing down a bit (since players actually do it now) or you'll get more injuries and yellow/red cards

    - Tight marking was a joke (in my opinion) before the match, it works better now and should probably be used for your CB's.

    But I don't want to draw any conclusions at this stage, I hope someone starts a thread for this later on today!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by thomas_e View Post
    No official thread no, but I've noted a few points from forums and the games I've played myself:

    - The tactics that almost had as a goal to get crosses at the back post where your winger would be unmarked will not be as effective.

    - You probably might want to reduce your closing down a bit (since players actually do it now) or you'll get more injuries and yellow/red cards

    - Tight marking was a joke (in my opinion) before the match, it works better now and should probably be used for your CB's.

    But I don't want to draw any conclusions at this stage, I hope someone starts a thread for this later on today!
    yeah, i've been looking for tactical feedback on it and havent found anything but the feedback on the patch thread at the SI forums and this one. early days still. with the previous patch i found that using tight marking with your CB's made them close down a player as a unit and left space for other players to make runs into the area, do u think this has been fixed? i removed tight marking of my back four in the last update of my tactic because of this. that and my fullback would mark the forward inside the area instead of the winger if i had set him to marn mark the winger with tight marking, leaving him open to score from a far post cross. also increased closing down to try and stop those unstoppable runs from deep that no one closed down or even got in front of and ended up a sure goal.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by thomaspato View Post
    if i've already started a game, would the game automatically update or do i have to start the game again from the start?
    you need to close fm and launch it again, steam will update automatically. if you have any doubts, go to game status and check your version.

    and no, you dont need to start another saved game, its saved game compatible!
    Last edited by veez; 21/11/2012 at 12:38 PM.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by veez View Post
    yeah, i've been looking for tactical feedback on it and havent found anything but the feedback on the patch thread at the SI forums and this one. early days still. with the previous patch i found that using tight marking with your CB's made them close down a player as a unit and left space for other players to make runs into the area, do u think this has been fixed? i removed tight marking of my back four in the last update of my tactic because of this. that and my fullback would mark the forward inside the area instead of the winger if i had set him to marn mark the winger with tight marking, leaving him open to score from a far post cross. also increased closing down to try and stop those unstoppable runs from deep that no one closed down or even got in front of and ended up a sure goal.
    Yeah, It's certainly been improved yes. I've had my whole team on tight marking = no, except for my DM, but now I have my CD's marking tight. Starting my 9th season now with Arsenal away so I guess that will be a true test for those instructions ! I completely agree with you though, tight marking led to more space for wingers to run into, and it was a disaster. I trust the patch to have fixed this and in my opinion, tight marking CB's are the only way to go IRL so I'll try it out! Btw, try having your wingers mark the oppositions wingers if they are playing a flat 4-4-2. This worked great for me (note: before that patch)! I'll probably go through my whole tactic and certainly wath the first 15 mins of the Arsenal game in full time.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Vanjagl View Post
    Best part is that we'll have 5 more patches in next few months. And all this cuz of Skidrow and pirate versions. So yes SI, you will lose some money if you make fully functional game without having to patch it 5 times, but you'll lose even more if you're letting us wait till December/January to make match engine working without major bugs. Maybe not this year, maybe not next aswell, but in near future, yes.
    Don`t you worry about Skidrow, they couldn`t crack the last 12.2.2 patch, so i don`t see them cracking this one

  18. Quote Originally Posted by kj94c View Post
    Even if you got poor broadband like me? Brill!! And i've been told i don't have to work overtime tonight too!!
    Yea it won't take long, my broadband is slow (about 1mgb connection) and at only 50mgb to download, it didn't take too long (about 5-10 mins).
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  19. i really like the changes! The passing looks like football now! players are actually trying the truballs and long passes... I stared a new save with Granada and won 5-0 in a friendly, 1 of those goals were top class, 1 touch passes from the backline! i dont know if theyv made the passing to good now but its better than before where the players acted like retarded goats lol

  20. SMcManus84's Avatar SMcManus84
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    Why so many updates I thought the game was perfect upon release??

  21. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMcManus84 View Post
    Why so many updates I thought the game was perfect upon release??
    Er....... no one said that.
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  22. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_ilfandy View Post
    Noticing the v1313 - v 1318 fixing lists, is this going to be the final sub-patch for 13.1??
    There is another patch before Xmas, barring any major game breaking issues that crop up. This was mainly aimed at the ME, with some non - ME stuff that was already complete put in. Its essentially an ME hotfix

  23. SMcManus84's Avatar SMcManus84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    Er....... no one said that.
    I know...... :-)

  24. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubpac View Post
    How is the new patch with the ME works ?
    ... Very exicted Right now!!
    Better balanced, as you'd expect. Hands down a better ME than FM12, and yet there is still more they can do, so it will only get better.

    GK distribution needs further work, as I dont think they had enough time to implement changes, but its another good improvement.

  25. Huge improvements on fullbacks and wingers defending and the overall ME is very good now.

    But after a few hours of testing I have found that there are lots of own goals and still some stupid keeper errors, anyone else experienced something similar or just my games?

  26. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbooo View Post
    Huge improvements on fullbacks and wingers defending and the overall ME is very good now.

    But after a few hours of testing I have found that there are lots of own goals and still some stupid keeper errors, anyone else experienced something similar or just my games?
    Cant say ive seen many own goals. I know FM12 had the issue where deflected goals were wrongly often given as own goals. But Can't say ive seen that this time. Keepers are better, but need more work.

  27. Well most of the own goals are either deflected crosses or the covering defender slide tackling the ball past the keeper.

    But overall very happy with the improvements, can now actually appreciate the new ME without screaming at my laptop due to glitches lol.

  28. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbooo View Post
    Well most of the own goals are either deflected crosses or the covering defender slide tackling the ball past the keeper.

    But overall very happy with the improvements, can now actually appreciate the new ME without screaming at my laptop due to glitches lol.
    If you think you are seeing an unusually high number, save the match, and note the time in match it occured.

    Then create a thread here: Match Engine/3D and Team Talks

    here is how to upload your game: Sports Interactive Community

  29. i just started a game with arsenal and it seems like every shot on target goes in since the patch quite annoying and unrealistic

  30. not sure this is the right place to post this, made a thread in errors but i will post here also because i think it is related to the new patch since it's the first time i had any errors.
    UPDATE 13.1.3 RELEASED for Football Manager 2013-error1.jpgUPDATE 13.1.3 RELEASED for Football Manager 2013-error2.jpg

  31. Quote Originally Posted by Akimo View Post
    not sure this is the right place to post this, made a thread in errors but i will post here also because i think it is related to the new patch since it's the first time i had any errors.
    Attachment 284032Attachment 284033
    Go to C/My Documents/Sports Interactive/FM 2013 - check to see if there is a crash dump folder in there and if there is delete it.

    Then go to steam, right mouse click on FM 2013 and select properties. Select Verify Game Cache and let it do its thing then open FM again.

    This should get find/fix/replace any corrupt files etc.
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  32. Damn, 6-7-8 shots a game with the new patch ? It`s less than half from what i used to have on 13.1.2
    Keepers , long pass , long strikes & crossing need more work

  33. was far from perfect

  34. Quote Originally Posted by crusho79 View Post
    Damn, 6-7-8 shots a game with the new patch ? It`s less than half from what i used to have on 13.1.2
    Keepers , long pass , long strikes & crossing need more work
    well i get like 5-15 GOOD shots... on 13.1.2 i got 20-40 very bad shots... much better now

  35. Quote Originally Posted by zinnix1900 View Post
    well i get like 5-15 GOOD shots... on 13.1.2 i got 20-40 very bad shots... much better now
    Any own goal problem ? I got 4 in 11 games, all from cross ball, Jagielka my top own goal scorer with 3

  36. havent seen anything bad so far tbh... had 1 own goal but it was from penalty the ball hit the bar and of the GK's back and in... lol!

  37. Game seems to have got a lot harder. Was 8W 1D 0L away from home in my first PL season with Nottingham Forest sat in 4th place. Now need to rethink all tactics after a awful run of just 5 points in 8 games.

  38. super smashing great

  39. Can't see anything about the keepers actually playing it short when you tell them to, instead of just hoofing it upfield.
    Little bit worried as this was all I wanted from the patch.

  40. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fonesters View Post
    Can't see anything about the keepers actually playing it short when you tell them to, instead of just hoofing it upfield.
    Little bit worried as this was all I wanted from the patch.
    They didnt have time for that, look for further improvement before xmas

  41. I think SI have lost the plot a bit in terms of the Match Engine. This update feel very, very random. Some things work better, some are unchanged and some are worse. The ME after this update is just as much of a work in progress as before, just very... different! They aren't a step closer to producing a solid ME. I feel it's still miles behind FM12 in terms if producing a convincing game of football.

  42. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ainu20 View Post
    I think SI have lost the plot a bit in terms of the Match Engine. This update feel very, very random. Some things work better, some are unchanged and some are worse. The ME after this update is just as much of a work in progress as before, just very... different! They aren't a step closer to producing a solid ME. I feel it's still miles behind FM12 in terms if producing a convincing game of football.
    This is already miles ahead of of FM12, certainly isnt random. The updates were anything but random.

    They are only going to build on this, so chances are you will funamentally hate it.
    Last edited by Mike.; 21/11/2012 at 10:51 PM.
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  43. Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    They didnt have time for that, look for further improvement before xmas
    Guess that'll have to do :L bit annoying because it makes it quite hard to make a possession tactic

  44. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fonesters View Post
    Guess that'll have to do :L bit annoying because it makes it quite hard to make a possession tactic
    pick a specific player, i use my full back, hasnt been terrible in terms of possession tactics. But I'm very much looking forward to further keeper updates.

  45. Nice patch

  46. Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    pick a specific player, i use my full back, hasnt been terrible in terms of possession tactics. But I'm very much looking forward to further keeper updates.
    I set it to one of my cbs and I can't get my keepers pass completion % over 50-60

  47. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fonesters View Post
    I set it to one of my cbs and I can't get my keepers pass completion % over 50-60
    Try the full back.

  48. Can anyone tell me if this has been addressed, so I know if I can be bothered picking up this game anymore:

    -players who instantly upon receiving the ball turn their back on direction of play and opponents
    -players on 6-yard line with clear shot turning the ball back to someone 20+ yards out
    -players constantly finishing from a 90 degree angle to the goal instead of playing the 45 degree out to the 3 players avilable (as opposed to what they do in my point above)
    -players around the 18-yard line who turn play all the way back to own keeper
    -full backs who upon receiving the ball stop dead and stand there waiting to be disposessed by opponent with subsequent clear run.
    -players who randomly run past the ball instead of catching it, leaving opponent clear run on goal.
    -goalkeeper standing frozen still, shot going through him into net
    -goalkeeper not so much throwing himself where he stands as just collapsing, not after the ball
    -overload, pump ball into box, get ball forward, 2 mins left = pissing about own side of midfield playing 5-a-side.
    -same as above, goal down, going for Guinness record possesion 30 yards out, not chasing equaliser.
    -passing style apparently not effecting anything at all how one passes the ball.
    -defenders, despite man mark, get stuck in, max closing down - standing around 3-4 of them watching the ball in own area instead of clearing it, leaving lone striker to score.
    -same settings as above = stand off, stand off, stand off, back to own 6 yard line. Shot from 18 and goal against.
    -player spending best part of the half to turn direction to own goal on breakdown, leaving lone striker clear run on goal.
    -and MOST of all, yet again exaggerating influence of tactics to the point one has to spend 3 months IRL (not in-game time) tweaking, tweaking, tweaking tactics without getting nowhere. Even my club managed to get a 3rd place by spending enough millions on individuals, despite having the leagues most clueless tactician EVER for a manager!
    How large a portion of customers are that nerdy in their approach to the game to accept that? It kills ALL playability. You end up not giving a crap about any other aspects of the game than tweaking tactics between every match.

    I've played this series since CM93. And all this bullshit I've just listed is the reason I left it in 2007, as in my opinion, the game is utter shit. They peaked with 01/02, and ever since it's been nothing but downhill. The solution is to pound on functionality after functionality for "depth" to call it "realistic", yet playability is diminished year after year, and SI aren't clueing up at all!

  49. The full details are in the OP

  50. Quote Originally Posted by Mike. View Post
    Try the full back.
    Yh I will, thanks for the advise

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