The Complete Legend Database Threadleg·end [lej-uh'nd] noun
1. a. One that inspires legends or achieves legendary fame.
---b. One who very many people know about and admire.
2. a. An unverified story handed down from earlier times, especially one popularly believed to be historical.
---b. A body or collection of such stories.
---c. A romanticized or popularized myth of modern times.
Legend: A lie that has attained the dignity of age. H. L. Mencken
The pure definition of a legend suggests that such a label should be considered as an amalgamation of both fact and fiction. In footballing terms, there is very little evidence to demonstrate the suggested skills and abilities of some of the sport's earliest stars, and comparisons with the current era are always difficult. We rely on the experiences of others, stories of great triumph passed down from generation to generation, stories of individual brilliance unrivaled in today's game. The interpretation of these 'fables' is a very difficult skill, the game has progressed significantly since the days of Billy Meredith and Archie Hunter, but there are very few in the world to have had the privelage to have seen them at their peak.
As such, creating a Legend Database for the football manager series will always be somewhat subjective. I have created this thread to help improve the objectiveness of some databases out there, to provide useful links (both factual and theoretical), to generate hypothetical and unbiased discussion and to generally improve the knowledge of some of football's greats. I have seen the demand for legend databases, and the many attempts of creating such a database on this site, so anyone considering creating or downloading one should utilise the information provided here. Hopefully others will consider adding to the limited information that I have sought out, so any suggestions can be added to this thread.
Hopefully, this thread will be sectioned to include:
* All Time/Era Squad Lists
* Graphics Packs
* Recommended Databases
* Useful Links
So Basically, anything legend, be it discussion on a player's attributes or anything that could help the many database creators out there, please consider sharing it in this thread and help to improve the standard of Legend Databases. Any suggestions will be greeted with open arms, and any vital information missing from the sections, please point it out!
__________________________All Time Club Squad Lists
** WIP **
* AC Milan | AFC Ajax | Arsenal | Aston Villa | Atlético Madrid
* Barcelona | Bayern Munich | Benfica | Blackburn Rovers | Bolton Wanderers | Borussia Dortmund
* Fiorentina | Fulham
* Inter Milan
* Lazio | Liverpool
* Manchester City | Manchester United
* Newcastle United
* Real Madrid | Roma
* Tottenham Hotspur
* Wolverhampton Wanderers
All Time International Squad Lists
Era Squad Lists
* AC Milan (1987-91) - 'Gli Immortali'
* AFC Ajax (1969/73) - 'Total Football, The 12 Apostles'
* Arsenal (2003/04) - 'The Invincibles'
* Barcelona (1988/94) - 'Cruyff's Dream Team'
* Benfica (1960/65) - 'A Glorioso - the Eusebio era'
* Celtic (1966/67) - 'The Lisbon Lions'
* Liverpool (2000/01) - 'The Cup Treble'
* Manchester United (1955/58) - 'The Busby Babes' _|_ Manchester United (1998/99) - 'The Treble Season'
* Real Madrid (1955/61) - 'Los Merengues Quintellizo' _|_ Real Madrid (1984/90) - 'La quinta del Buitre' _|_ Real Madrid (2000/06) - 'Los Galacticos'
* Sporting Lisbon (1963/64) - 'Herois de Antuerpia'
Bennymc's Man United Historical Challenge - An incredible database consisting of ten Manchester United squads throughout history. Accurate player attributes and extremely detailed, this is a database that every Manchester United supporter will surely enjoy.
Steve's Legend Workshop - A unique collection of individual legends at their peak, including the likes of Luis Figo, Ferenc Puskas and Pele, that allows you to download your personal choice of players or the entire collection. Accurate player attributes and detailed personal histories allow you to seamlessly merge your favourite legends into any game database.
MadRo's Legend Database FM13 - A collection of over 100 household names in football, including the likes of Johan Cruyff, David Beckham and Xavi Hernandez accurately depicted and merged into the original game.
Wikipedia - a useful public tool that contains statistical and subjective information reguarding many of the better known footballing greats.
Youtube - a site showcasing the footballing abilities of many of the more modern football legends, useful for attribute analysis.
English Football Legends - a prestigious list of English football legends, including both players and managers, containing information on playing style, ability, history and successes.
Football League 100 - a hand picked list of 100 of the greatest footballers to ever play in English football.
World Football Legends - a world legend site, including A-Z player and coach lists, as well as World and European tournament history and information reguarding great teams from different eras.
The Beautiful Game - a football forum containing useful lists of top 100 players for each position, somewhat subjective.
PES Stats Database - a site dedicated to recreating legendary players and squads for Pro Evolution Soccer. Very useful parallels to football manager.
FIFA 100 - a list of 125 legendary players selected by Pele to mark the 100th anniversary of FIFA. Somewhat criticised as politically motivated rather than an objective selection.
World Soccer 100 - a reputable list of the top 100 players of all time based on opinion polls, courtesy of World Soccer magazine.
Worldfootball.net - a useful site for club history and personal characteristics such as height and weight.
PremierSoccerStats - excellent statistical site detailing the EPL history, players, managers and even referees!
FootballZZ - a site containing complete squad lists from decades ago up to present day. Great for height/weight statistics.
UK A-Z Players - another excellent site comprising English and Scottish post war players, a very complete list for each team with valuable data.
Xtratime.org - a site ranking legendary players in each position, seemingly accurate with good reasoning behind esch choice and useful for allocating abilities.
11v11 - a statistical gold mine for player histories, including international and club appearance records, and excellent match reports.