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  1. Long shots becoming a massive issue

    So just about every formation I make on this game so far has resulted in high possession, high passing accuracy and an insane amount of long shots. I've set every single player to take long shots rarely, through balls high, and set creative discipline to low. Despite this the players will continue to shoot from distance all the time. I'm getting 20+ shots a game and almost all from distance. I always use shouts like 'work it into the box' and other similar but it seems to have no impact. Is there something I'm missing here? Because it's driving me insane.

  2. Hi
    Hi looking forward to the responses here, as I think I will be in the asylum with you otherwise!

  3. How is your creative freedom set? Setting it to low will make them listen to you a bit better, also make sure no one has those "like to take long shots" PPMs if they really are hurting you. Other PPMs like tries killer balls or looks to pass or something along the lines of encouraging balls that get into the box can also make a big difference.

  4. Settings for Time wasting & Tempo?

  5. Gump

    Hi I have tried all sorts of tempos etc, but currently just starting 2nd season with Liverpool and have just changed to playing balanced/counter, slow tempo about one click down from normal, likewise for width. Time wasting is set to sometimes one click left of centre. It's a 4231.

    Playing this way in ore season and last couple of games of last season I have had a ridiculous amount of possession and like 30shots per game but only about 8 on target and 1 ccc if any per game.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Maverick750 View Post
    Gump

    Hi I have tried all sorts of tempos etc, but currently just starting 2nd season with Liverpool and have just changed to playing balanced/counter, slow tempo about one click down from normal, likewise for width. Time wasting is set to sometimes one click left of centre. It's a 4231.

    Playing this way in ore season and last couple of games of last season I have had a ridiculous amount of possession and like 30shots per game but only about 8 on target and 1 ccc if any per game.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks
    U shud post screenshots of your Team Instructions and then the players PI who take most of the long shots as then I can take a look at the bigger picture.

    However, from what I can tell with that info, is that ur CCC problems are related with your Counter and slow tempo setup. Counter IMO sets most of the players to be more defensive minded as thats what counter is, keep men behind ball and then strike quickly when you get the ball. It all depends from the way U want ur team to actually play, but I guess its possession so I'd recommend maybe switching from Counter to Control or Attacking or then just speed up things, making tempo to somewhere in the Normal section, maybe click or two from the centre to either side, you need to experiment on it, which suits you better.

    Long shots problem might be related to your Time Wasting as it can work both ways. It can be beneficial in possession tactics, but if you overdo it (put too much time wasting on), then it will backfire you and this is what is happening. Ur having way too much Time Wasting, considering its somewhere in the middle. Before you use time wasting, you need to understand it. How do you think players will waste time in the pitch? I can think a few ways like holding up ball and passing ball around but I can also come up with blasting the ball towards goal/stands from miles apart. When I make possession based tactics, I leave it to Rarely side of things or then just one click over Rarely -> Which makes it Sometimes. If you get what I mean.

    PPM's also play a role, but as you are Liverpool and 2nd season, you probably havent bought any players which has tries long shots, but I dont have sufficient knowledge of Liverpool players PPM's so I cant really say anything regarding it.

    So return to me with the screenshots, unless I already solved your problem.

  7. It's a known issue that has to do with players around the ballholder not making enough movements, providing passing options.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Gump View Post
    U shud post screenshots of your Team Instructions and then the players PI who take most of the long shots as then I can take a look at the bigger picture.

    However, from what I can tell with that info, is that ur CCC problems are related with your Counter and slow tempo setup. Counter IMO sets most of the players to be more defensive minded as thats what counter is, keep men behind ball and then strike quickly when you get the ball. It all depends from the way U want ur team to actually play, but I guess its possession so I'd recommend maybe switching from Counter to Control or Attacking or then just speed up things, making tempo to somewhere in the Normal section, maybe click or two from the centre to either side, you need to experiment on it, which suits you better.

    Long shots problem might be related to your Time Wasting as it can work both ways. It can be beneficial in possession tactics, but if you overdo it (put too much time wasting on), then it will backfire you and this is what is happening. Ur having way too much Time Wasting, considering its somewhere in the middle. Before you use time wasting, you need to understand it. How do you think players will waste time in the pitch? I can think a few ways like holding up ball and passing ball around but I can also come up with blasting the ball towards goal/stands from miles apart. When I make possession based tactics, I leave it to Rarely side of things or then just one click over Rarely -> Which makes it Sometimes. If you get what I mean.

    PPM's also play a role, but as you are Liverpool and 2nd season, you probably havent bought any players which has tries long shots, but I dont have sufficient knowledge of Liverpool players PPM's so I cant really say anything regarding it.

    So return to me with the screenshots, unless I already solved your problem.
    Thanks for the detailed reply. I have experimented with it for 274hrs so far, much to the mrs displeasure!! Started again so many times! I was playing quick/direct wide etc first season and still wasn't creating much so went for something a bit more consistent (hopefully!). I will play around a bit more with your suggestions and get back to you with screenshots if I still get nowhere.

    thanks again appreciate ur help

  9. I'm also having the same problem, I have set most players' long shots instructions to rarely however every time they pick up the ball it they often shoot - usually the shots go out 18 yards wide. And TheBetterHalf, that seems to be a factor in my game. Many of the surrounding players don't seem to be making great runs. The player with the ball seems to run and run with the ball, as if they are looking for a pass, and then waste a shot. Does anybody know how to avoid this?

  10. Mike.'s Avatar Mike.
    Manchester United Super Moderator
    #10
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBetterHalf View Post
    It's a known issue that has to do with players around the ballholder not making enough movements, providing passing options.
    This in a nutshell, but also you can help minimise this with a good setup that creates space.

    So please post your team instructions and player formation screen

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