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Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts

  1. Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts

    Hello everyone,

    this is my first time uploading a tactic to the fm-base forum. I have been reading about numerous tactics since fm11, but never posted. Since fm13 is considered by many (including me) harder than previous versions, especialy when playing away from home, I will post the tactic im using when playing against beast teams (utd, city, chelsea, bayern etc) in Premier League and European competitions.
    Im currently managing Newcastle and im in the second season. The tactic was created in patch 13.1.3 and has provided my team with good results. I havent tested it throughoutly yet, mostly because im only using it on games vs very strong teams (mostly away but some times home too). I havent used it home vs weaker and I would suggest you stick with the tactics posted by other members when playing home, since they have been proven stable and reliable (btw at this point I would like to thank great tactitians on this forum such as THB, Raikan, Zero Sea, Koflok, JP etc for their tactics and guides/discussion threads - they have helped me a lot with the game).

    Any feedback is welcome - feel free to criticise
    Szig3t


    Cross Fingers and Counter Attack


    Formation and Team Instructions
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-newcastle-united_-tactics-team.png

    Touchline Shouts

    - Exploit the Flanks
    - Look for Overlap
    - When the other team puts great pressure Stand back more

    Opposition Instructions
    - I use assistant manager but also always make sure that
    - MCs / AMC are always closed down
    - AMRL close down and show player onto weaker foot
    - DR/DL close down and show player onto weaker foot when I see them playing offensively and going for crosses

    Match Results
    As I mentioned earlier I am using this tactic when away vs big teams so I cant provide you with tons of match-screenshots.Still, the little I got is kinda impressive:
    -vs Bayern Away
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-fc-bayern-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-fc-bayern-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    -vs Bayern Home (I still cant forget this match, my players were on fire for some reason, dont expect such results)
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-newcastle-v-fc-bayern_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-newcastle-v-fc-bayern_-stats-home-stats.png
    -vs City Away
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-city-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-city-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    -vs Spurs Away
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-tottenham-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-tottenham-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    -vs Vila Away (not a beast team I know, I cant recall why I used a counter formation at that match)
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-aston-villa-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-aston-villa-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    -vs Chelsea Away
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-chelsea-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-chelsea-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    -vs Milan Away
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-.c.-milan-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-.c.-milan-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    -vs Utd Away (CL game)
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-utd-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-utd-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    Ofcourse there have been some bad results too, Ill post some screenshots for anyone interested, but I feel I need to point out that at the following games I was trying to play a Stopper-Cover CD setup, noticing that the opponent team was using a lone striker. That didnt work out - at least with my settings-, created space in my defence and I concieded due to through balls.
    -vs City Away (Cup game with many reserve players 3 days before league game that I posted before)
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-city-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-city-v-newcastle_-stats-away-stats.png
    -vs Utd Away (I posted Utd player stats to point out the amount of key passes that teared my stopper-cover defence apart)
    Szig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-utd-v-newcastle_-stats-match-stats.pngSzig3t's Counter tactic vs PL/UCL Beasts-man-utd-v-newcastle_-stats-home-stats.png


    Match Prep
    -team cohesion until season starts
    -defending or defending set pieces when against Hightower teams (tall, strong opponents)

    Suggestion on players
    TM: Your team's tower. Strong, tall, with good heading and balance. Being able to pass and create is a huge bonus, but his main role is to recieve a cross and either shot or try to pass to poacher
    Poacher: Your speedy finisher. Acceleration, finishing, flair and off the ball are the stats I would look for.
    Wingers: They are usualy the ones that the DLP gives the ball to. Their role is to hug the touchline and run, looking for a cross to the TM. Crossing, dribling, acceleration, pace are the most important stats, and making sure they dont have inverted legs. You need a right-footed AMR and left-footed AML. (This is the reason I was trying to avoid using Ben Arfa with this tactic)
    DMs: Both of them need to be good at defence. Their instructions are to tackle hard and they will mostly tackle the enemy AMC. Now, given the fact AMCs are usually good dribblers, you need high tackling ability, so that you avoid fouls/yellows/reds. The DLP can benefit from passing/creativity/decisions/crossing or any other creative stat, but again, tackling/anticipation/determination/marking are mostly important.
    FB: I would mostly look for defensive stats, since their role is to defend. Crossing and dribbling are always welcome but tackling, marking, acceleration, potitioning and heading are more important.
    CB: Those 2 will get most man of the match awards with this tactic. You need to have good centerbacks since they will absorb all the pressure. Marking, anticipation, positioning, heading, strength, pace, bravery, I cant think of any defensive stat that isn't very important. (Swkratis Papastathopoulos from Werder has been a miracle transfer for me, and Im keeping funds for Kyriakos Papadopoulos of Schalke to complete my "greek defend" wall. I strongly suggest them both)

    Some facts about the tactic
    If you decide to try my tactic there are a few facts you are commited to. You will heavily lose to possesion. This tactic is built on this fact. What I wanted when I created this tactic is to let the opponents have the ball, make them push higher up, so when I manage to steal the ball, I can have a good chance of counter attacking and find them out of possition. The idea is to win the ball, give it to the wingers and send them running. TM is tweaked a bit, I find those settings are helping him not be isolated.

    Least Important Facts
    -Im using standard pitch dimensions but never tried max or min to check what is working best
    -Sorry for my bad english

    Last but not least
    I am not promising anyone a 100% away win ratio. I just found out that this tactic is working for me and thought it would be good to share.


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    Last edited by szig3t; 30/11/2012 at 10:45 AM.
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