Help setting up 5-3-2 (SW, Wing Backs, AMC and 2 strikers)

[Goldenboy13]

Hi all i was wondering if anyone has had any luck setting up a 3-5-2 tactic
i have tried but its seem to be an impossible task for me :-(
I
would like this sort of shape:

--------SW-------
----CB------CB---
RWB---------LWB
---DLP-----BWM--
-------AMC--------
---DLP------P------

The problem i have is the tactic can beso inconsistant, i struggle with the SW settings and CB, (i always get caught out with quick strikers), I dont seem to be in control of games, if i do win it looks like i won by luck more than a deserved win...the wing backs are always out numbered and when my Mid steps in to help out it leaves a massive gap in the Mid for a simple pass..

can anyone help please?

ps: my prefered way of playing is Rigid/Very Rigid, Counter Attacking or Control, no or limited creative freedom, direct or short passing is ok.

[trowideano]

Thats scary, i have the exact set up and player duties as this.

I have set it up with high tempo, short passing and man marking with more roaming. Play it as either attacking fluid or balanced fluid and tend to retain possession when at home. Using it with Napoli to great effect at the moment. Top of the league just past January by 4 points. Semi-final of the italian cup (still in it) and knockout rounds of Europa League (still in it) Set new club record of 9 wins in a row.

[Goldenboy13]

haha great minds think a like!! what about defensive line? and pressure and tackling?? are your wing backs set to attack or support? also did you set up any indiviudal player instruction or is defaulted to team setting?

[CDXtreme]

Id just go for a flat back three and set the middle CB to cover... Consistency seems to come with playing and changing the setup to combat problems you see Id recommend watching 3 or 4 full games and keep an eye on whats going on...

I would play pretty wide with a normal DF line and have everyone bar your CFs close down in own half and probably ensure that the DF and MF all stick to position...
Im kind of a system manager I tend to play the same system with every team I just change the formation and make some slight changes to the system depending on the formation and personnel...

[gormbak]

I am also trying the same as you guys. I just have a anchorman instead of the SW.. But it is not working out at all for me..
Im at the point of giving up!...

But let me know if you hit the jackpot..

[nezza6969]

nezza 5-2-1-2 v2.tac

haha great minds think a like!! what about defensive line? and pressure and tackling?? are your wing backs set to attack or support? also did you set up any indiviudal player instruction or is defaulted to team setting?

try this 3 win seasons so far with newcastle

[nezza6969]

if you need more info check my tread

[CDXtreme]

I am also trying the same as you guys. I just have a anchorman instead of the SW.. But it is not working out at all for me..
Im at the point of giving up!...

But let me know if you hit the jackpot..

FM is awkward see you can understand things perfectly IRL but translating it to FM is the issue... And I found this issue with 3 man backlines FM has not favoured this system in the past so you have to find your own way to make it work... I finally figured out how to set up a 3 man back line properly by actually playing a 41212 (442 Narrow Diamond DM/CM/CM/AM)...
I do this at AC Milan because the AC I use to watched played that way... Anyway as the tactic evolved I started to notice in attack my team resembled a 3-4-3... My DM slotted in beside the two CBs, my FBs (set to WB attack) aggressively pushed high up the pitch and attacked as wingers, my CMs and CFs acted as you would expect and my AMC pushed right up beside my 2CFs...
So naturally what I did was moved my team around to match this except I left the AMC where he was because I like to play with an AMC (almost all my tactics I have revolves around this position)... I ended up with a 3412 using Wide MFs instead of WBs...
I like to try different formations and this is why because you discover different things the biggest thing I learned was how to create a successful 3 man backline but I also learned two other things...
1. If you want to make a Libero consider this in some ways the Libero has evolved into the DLP (DM/DLP/Defend) so understanding that role makes it easier to implement it IMO...
2. The wide players... this to me the most critical part of your team and getting the right guys is absolutely crucial your tactic it wont work unless you get the two best guys available... I learned how important two brilliant FBs can be in last years game if you get two guys good enough you dont need wingers which allows you to get extra men where you need them... This FB thing can translate to WBs and WMFs as well...

Just try out different things its the best way to go in the long run you will be better prepared to deal with the updates and future if you have a good understanding of how different things work... I also think you're focusing on the wrong area out wide is were I would concentrate and Id pretty much ditch the SW...

[kostasq]

Hey Goldenboy did you try my formation?
How did it go?

[Goldenboy13]

FM is awkward see you can understand things perfectly IRL but translating it to FM is the issue... And I found this issue with 3 man backlines FM has not favoured this system in the past so you have to find your own way to make it work... I finally figured out how to set up a 3 man back line properly by actually playing a 41212 (442 Narrow Diamond DM/CM/CM/AM)...
I do this at AC Milan because the AC I use to watched played that way... Anyway as the tactic evolved I started to notice in attack my team resembled a 3-4-3... My DM slotted in beside the two CBs, my FBs (set to WB attack) aggressively pushed high up the pitch and attacked as wingers, my CMs and CFs acted as you would expect and my AMC pushed right up beside my 2CFs...
So naturally what I did was moved my team around to match this except I left the AMC where he was because I like to play with an AMC (almost all my tactics I have revolves around this position)... I ended up with a 3412 using Wide MFs instead of WBs...
I like to try different formations and this is why because you discover different things the biggest thing I learned was how to create a successful 3 man backline but I also learned two other things...
1. If you want to make a Libero consider this in some ways the Libero has evolved into the DLP (DM/DLP/Defend) so understanding that role makes it easier to implement it IMO...
2. The wide players... this to me the most critical part of your team and getting the right guys is absolutely crucial your tactic it wont work unless you get the two best guys available... I learned how important two brilliant FBs can be in last years game if you get two guys good enough you dont need wingers which allows you to get extra men where you need them... This FB thing can translate to WBs and WMFs as well...

Just try out different things its the best way to go in the long run you will be better prepared to deal with the updates and future if you have a good understanding of how different things work... I also think you're focusing on the wrong area out wide is were I would concentrate and Id pretty much ditch the SW...

thanks for your detailed info.. I played this game for years and i know exactly how this game couldnt cope with 3 CBs in the past.. i am trying few new things right now that i didnt try before, (i.e playing standard and fluid, short passing but with quick tempo) i am crystal palace at the moment.. i have had a very good run of 5 games so far i will update you once i played few more games...

i dont really want to give up with the SW just yet.. but yes I agree with you, i have also had little bit more luck with 3 flat CBs in my FM12 versin i had the them set like this (left to right) Defend Cover, Defend Stopper, Ball playing Cover...