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Asymmetric 451
Here is a little project that is a simple Plug & play Tactic. Attached you will find 2 Tactics. One called TBH SPLIT 451 MR version and this is the one described in the post. The other one is called "ML" version and is the mirror of the first one. If you use the "Mirrored", then the flow and the roles will be the other way around
You dont "switch" between the tactics other than to suit your actuall squad and the settings are exactly the same
SHOUTS
Dont use them. As most of the settings have been tweaked, the shouts will either have no effect or will only effect half of whats intended, meaning that the tactic will be disrupted.
THE TACTIC
We are playing a counter attack based approach within a 2 formation approach. On the left side, we play a Deep 4231 and on the right side, it’s a Flat 4411/442. This way, I get to use my players where they do the most damage.
Left side
Here, the buildup consists in a Winger that awaits the support of a Smart and aggressive DMC with a supporting Wingback providing width. The AMC provides movement by his moving into channels.
Right side.
Here, we have a holding MC that plays t-balls into channels down the flanks onto our Winger providing width. The FC is playing as an advanced FC with the support of an AMC that is stretching the defense. The fullback is one that stays back and acts both cover and an easy passing option for the MC and the winger
Both sides put together
By using this split formation, we give ourselves the opportunity to have many dimension in our build up. We can play a direct ball onto our FC, we can play a possession based approach and drag the opponents on to us by using triangles in midfield. We have the width with our MR and left Wingback ( in the DL position). We have crosses from both left and right and we have people taking runs from both the left, right and the center
If the opponents sit deep, the right side is more likely to be able to drag the opponent onto us and if they play aggressive and push up, then the left side can easily retain possession in an advanced position whilst still having cover by the DMC if losing the ball.
Naturally, the flow of the game will depend on the quality and preferred moves of your players but regardless of opponent, it gives you the chance to dominate the area of the pitch where you beat them in quality using this multi dimension approach.
In short, it’s a good approach if wanting to stretch the opponent sideways and be able to overload every area of the field
THE FLOW
1.
Here we have a build up on the left side. Our MC has the ball ansd can either use the left flank or switch the ball to the right where loads and loads of space is found. Also notice the way that we have dragged Arsenals team apart, leaving a big whole in the middle.
We decide to switch flank onto our MR
Our Winger can now either huge the touchline and cross or try to get inside ( he choses this). As you can see, he has lost of passing options. He can use a pass & move option or run with the ball and put it into channels into our FC
Here, he has dribbled forward and puts the ball into channels onto our FC that slots it home into the far corner
2
Here is another buildup and you can see that the formation now looks more like a flat 442. Our DMC has lots of passing options
As we use the left flank, our formation is now a 253. Oour AML can either go inside or play a overlap with our Wingback
As he goes inside, the formation is now a 235, Just look at the whole in the middle where he will pace the ball into
3
Here is an attack that IS NOT a counter attack. The build up is along the right flank and as you see, the formation is more of an 4132
MATCH PREP
I tend to use Defensive positioning when playing counter attack( as in this tactic)
but if the opponents have scored many goals from corners, or If I see our best
chance from these, I go with Set Pieces ( defensive,
attacking)
SET PIECES
Have not been touched. Here, you will have to set them up to suit your players
TRAINING
It would highly depend on the players but the
stats posted in the OP are those that I find important for the roles. Along with
those, I use the Standard setup.
GETTING MANY CARDS ?
If you see that a player with a yellow card has been playing poorly and getting out of his defensive position, then tell him to be mire careful in the 2nd half. If you see a player un the verge of getting his 2nd yellow, then dont be afraid to sub him, especially if he is " aggressive or frustrated" . As for red cards, always tell them in the team talk that you did not like it and fine him with 1 weeks pay. This is a pretty good way of stopping a floodgate scenario.
PLAYING WITH 10 MEN
Here, I sub the AML and bring one a new player/move players to play in the position of the sent off player. I also put the AMCcenter in AMCleft and push up the FBleft into the WBleft so the formation looks like the one in the screenshot below
OPPOSITION INSTRUCTIONS
I have NOT used any at all....but..
...in the past, I have mainly used these, regardless of tactic
Single FC without AMC support – Close Down/Always
Nervous and Anxious Players – Hard Tackling, Show into weak foot
Elegant DLPlaymaker – Tight Mark, Close Down and Weaker Foot
PLAYERS
Below, you see the description of the players along with some screens of the
recommended stats. Whilst these players are not set exactly to these roles, its
the closest in stats I can come when loading up screenshots. So look in the
description to see what kind of player to use and look in the screens for
important stats
The Balanced and determined squad
You don't need quality players to use this approach. What you do need is a balanced squad.
Enough players that have the stamina to use this high press system, players with
team and work rate, some quick players, enough " tall" players so you avoid
conceding too many set pieces etc etc. All in all, a TEAM, not just a group of
players. As in all Teams, you need players that want to win, players that are up
for the challenge and can pull themselves together when the going gets tough and
players that can handle the pressure of suddenly being a favorite. If you
combine all this, then you can win the Champions League with players of a much
lesser "quality" and " rating" then Barca etc. Naturally you can still get good
results without these traits but to win the CL, its crucial
If anyone has some players that have been working superbly in any of these"roles", please tell me and I will make a list in the Opening post under every position
FORWARD
In his settings, he will act like a Advanced FC. If he likes to move into channels and play one-twos, then the latter will bring one more dimension to the flow. When playing with underdogs and are more likely to launch quick counter attacks, an quick goalscorer is best used but when playing middle teams and top teams, then a more complete player that likes to link up with play is better used.
PPMs: Comes deep to get ball, Plays one-twos, Moves into channels
AMC
This is your second striker and he should be up there with the FC in box when seing fit. Here, we are talking about a AMC/FC, why not a retrained supporting striker. Its important that he does not like to come deep and dictate the tempo etc. Best used is a player like Gerrard, Lampard in their glory days. A more complete player that is ironed willed and really wants to win. If having a player like Aguero, Rooney, Tevez, they are perfect IF YOU UNLEARN their comes deep to get the ball ppm
PPMS: Try killer balls, gets forward, arrives late in area, runs through center with the ball
AML
You can use both inside Forwards and wingers out wide. The main tning here is that his ppms actually matches his preferences so if using an inside forward that likes to cut inside, the make sure he has good agility, dribbling, acceleration and finishing. If he likes to run down the left flank, then make sure he has good crossing
PPMs
Inside Forward: Cut inside, Gets into the area, places shots
Winger with good dribbling: Runs down the left flank, hugs touchline
Winger with lesser dribbling but with pace and acceleration: Knock ball past opponent
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MR
Here we have the classic English Winger. He hugs the touchline and makes crosses as qwell as getting into the area when the ball is on the other flank. As we play a rather fluid approach, a player like Seb Larsson, Milner etc is better used than Nasri. In short, a B2B winger
PPMS: Runs with ball down flank, knock ball past opponent, arrives late inside the area.
MC
This player acts like a Deep Lying Playmaker on support and the more complete he is in his role, being able to use his flair and creativity as well as breaking up attacks, the better it is.
PPMS: Try killer balls, comes deep to get the ball, dictates tempo
DMC
As written earlier, he is a more complete DMC/MC, like a box2box starting from the DMC position. He needs to be able to cover large areas running up and down the field so stamina is a must. Otherwise, you will see him having 60 % condition before the game is at end
PPMS: Nothing special. Just make sure he IS NOT acting like a DPL, NOT having dwells on ball, dictates tempo etc.
FB - DR
This player is set to be really defensive so he should NOT have attacking PPMs. As he holds up the ball, he needs good decision and concentration
PPMS: Nothing special
WB -DL
The more attacking fullback. He needs to be able to beat his man and make a cross, as well as get back into position after losing out in possession
PPMS: Runs down the left flank, switches flank, knocks ball past opponent
DC
Here, its all about getting as good defenders as possible
PPMS: Nothing special
Liking the approach but want to use more FCs ?
Have a look here
The Better Half´s SPLIT 433/343**Patch 13.2.3 ***
RESULTS
Some screens are uploaded here and some will take you to the post in this thread
Chelsea 2018: By Bugses ( 22 matches, only 1 goal conceded ! )
Swansea: By bellynufc ( EPL winner first season)
Newcastle: By La Fey ( EPL winner first season)
Milan: By Pogrebnik ( Serie A winner first season)
Results with Newcastle: By diegofr ( EPL winner first season)
Liverpool: By J3nick ( EPL winner first season)
Liverpool: By Marinmarin0v ( EPL winner first season)
Wolves: By Omrsrl ( Promotion 12/13
Leeds: By Lewisj23 ( Promotion 12/13)
LIVERPOOL (from "Larsa" at SI)
SWANSEA 2012/13
TWENTE: BY
The screen of my fixtures is since I took over at Twente. (as you can see, 5 CCC's instead of 6 I mentioned before, but it still is very impressive imo).
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Final results of the Forest ( a top team) 2015/16 season
Some feedback from SI
Trabzonspor
WIGAN
Originally Posted by fattony
Wow, just wow, absolutely incredible tactic :hail:
Just finished the season with Wigan, form from my last 18 league games was Won 11 Drew 5 Lost 2 Goals For 35 Goals Against 16
That's amazing, had i started the season with this tactic based on those results, i would easily have made Europe and may have even challenged for a CL spot.
With Wigan
I now have two big problems...
1. I now have to start a new save to give this tactic a full season(damn you TBH :thbgrin: )
2. My expectations are now so high that whoever i play as, i will be expecting to win the league by at least 20 points :lol:
You have a lot to answer for TBH :nono:
Incredible - Best tactic of FM13 so far and probably my favourite of any recent version of FM(until the next patch ruins it)
Looking at the Download below, you see that there is one version called TBH 451 that is the version described in the OP. There is also one called ( and missspelled) " Mirrored". This is for those that have a ML and AMR. Here, the whole setup has been mirrored meaning that the Left FB is now the limited one etc.
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