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  1. Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic

    fellow managers, i present to you my most recent, and probably my most successful creation for FM13.

    a classic 41230, with no strikers:

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea_-tactics-team.png

    the previous tactics i have posted were a 4231 and a 433, which are probably my favourite formations. My 4231 was very successful in early patches, and i havent managed to tweak it to my liking since. the 433 showed some impressive results, but had to be backed by an impressive team, due to most settings being default and relying on player decisions etc;

    the current 41230 is sort of a hybrid of my previous two tactics, trying to compensate for their respective faults.

    the 4231 lacked defensive consistency, which could be provided perfectly by an anchor man, but reducing one man in attack would hurt the team offensively.

    the 433 was hard to find a balance. the only way to ensure appropriate feeding of the 3 strikers left gaps at the back to be exloited by our opponents, mostly because the various lines of the team are too far appart and dont support each other appropriately. i tried variations of width tempo and player mentality to help this, but wasnt completely happy with a specific combination.

    therefore, i tried to solve the problems of both tactics, while still benefiting from their strong points, by combining them into one!

    i say this tactic is an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic, because it isn't an actual emulation of the said tactic, it was used more as an inspiration.

    the idea behind it, consists of 4 areas and 6 roles:

    Area 1 - CB's and Anchor Man - the back bone of the tactic, that assures defensive positioning and stability

    Area 2 - WB's - offensive wing-backs that constantly support both offensive and defensive moved

    Area 3 - CM's - all round midfielders, capable both of closing down opponents and wiining the ball up the field and supportin and creating offensive moves. they will also aim to arrive late in the area

    Area 4 - IF's and AM - the target men and the playmaker. the AM (paymaker) drops deeps and roams in attack and midfield, looking to feed players making forward runs into the opponent area, the IF's (target men) are arrows constantly pointed at the opponents area and goal, they will look to score or play each other or the AM or WB's in as well. they also swap positions between themselves.

    this is why this tactic was created in classic mode, so that more than one target man may be added. the idea is that both wide AM's are target men, with a "run onto ball" supply.

    it differs from spain's approach, only because it is completely symetrical, and the spanish false 9 isnt. Alba is more offensive than arbeloa and xavi is more offensive than xabi alonso in midfield. the busquets position remains the same however, much as the front 3, where you have fabregas playing in between iniesta and silva, with constant movement and runs looking to play each other into a goalscoring position. it is also fast, narrow and high pressing, much as the spanish game. some may say the spanish game is slow, and i can understand why, however they slow the game down in specific areas, to then speed it up again and catch the opposition off guard and numbed, i believe this tactic achieves that, to a certain extent ofcourse.

    normally, when i think i've had a tactical epiphany orl breakthrough it tends fall appart when i try to apply it to the game itself. it all seems wonderfull when its in my head though! however, i surprised myself this time, and the results produced by this tactic have been outstanding.

    i originally started a save with chelsea, to try and recreate my 4231 for the latest patch. it was towards the end of my pre-season that i decided to change my approach and came up wth the current tactic, so i ended up playing one friendly with it, and going into the charity shield against city right after. this also meant that i made transfers towards the wrong formation, so i was left with a squad with very little depth. (cavani and torres were in my reserves )

    this is my squad:

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea_-squad-players-2.png

    only turnbull and cech are missing at the top of the screen, and i have just bought arturo vidal in an exchange with cavani.

    as you can see, goals will come not only from your target-men, but from all round the pitch


    here are my results:

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea_-fixtures-schedule.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea_-fixtures-schedule-2.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea_-report-tactics.png

    so, in 35 official games, i lost only once (im counting the charity shield as a draw as i lost only on penalties). i scored 79 goals and conceeded 22.

    this is quite an achievement considering my squad had only 20 players (22 but cavani and torres ended up in the reserves), i also struggled with a few injuries, especially during and after christmas with the high number of games.

    here is how the league stands and player stats:

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-english-premier-division_-overview-stages-6.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-english-premier-division_-stats-player.png

    most of my draws and especially my recent defeat at the hands of liverpool have been unfair, as the following screeshots of my less successful results will show:

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-man-city_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-fulham_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-arsenal_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-reading-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-west-ham_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-q.p.r.-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-arsenal-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-man-utd_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-liverpool-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.png

    here are some screenshots of my successfull results:

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-swansea-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-stoke_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-wigan-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-everton_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-blackburn-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-man-utd-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-slb_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-sunderland-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-cfr-cluj_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-basel-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea-v-liverpool_-stats-match-stats.pngClassic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-.-madrid-v-chelsea_-stats-match-stats.png


    most of the goals conceeded, were mostly from corners or long throws and the occasional defensive or keeper mistake. i believe the tactic is very solid at the back, as well as prolific up front!

    this is the training i used after the tactics became fluid:

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-chelsea_-training-team.png


    DOWNLOAD LINK:Classic 41230 by veez.tac


    Note: this is a classic tactic, so you must add your playmakers and target-men in the set-pieces window. add all players you will use in the wide AM position to the target man window, and all of the one you will play in the cenral AM position to the playmaker window. you must be carefull with one thing though, not more than one player in the playmaker window may be on the pitch, this will create a tactical conflict, so you need to pay attantion to this and remove or add players when specific situations arise.

    I hope you will enjoy the same success as i have had with this tactic, and am happy to help if anyone has any questions.

    i'm also open to constructive criticism towards making this a better tactic.

    look forward to your feedback! cheers and happy gaming



    Tweaked Version Currently in Testing:


    here's a tweaked version i believe to be better both offensively and defensively:

    Download Link: Attachment 305075

    to those who have already downloaded the tactic, give it a try and let me know if you think it is better thank the original version.

    if you're new to this tactic, give it a try too and let me know how you do

    cheers

    Note: The offensive tweaks to the test version seem to have proven better, however i have doubts about the defensive ones. so i will probably be revertig back to man marking on my full-backs, however i'd like to hear some feedback on this from other players.

    here is the download link to the ammended version with the offensive tweaks but reverting to man marking on full-backs:

    Download Link:Classic 41230 by veez v1.3.tac


    At the request of some users, here is a TC version: Attachment 305389 (not tested yet)
    Last edited by veez; 28/01/2013 at 10:53 PM.
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  2. tested the tactic with newcastle, completely overhauling the squad. played half a season with the original version and another half with the latest tweaked test version.

    won the europa league and the premier league in the first season

    Classic 41230 by veez - an interpretation of Spain's Euro 2012 false 9 tactic-english-premier-division_-overview-stages-13.png
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  6. You got some good results here...Im gonna test it out in a bit cause Im liking the look of the formation.
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  7. how many tac have you made

  8. what skin do you use and how did you download it?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by lordofavp View Post
    You got some good results here...Im gonna test it out in a bit cause Im liking the look of the formation.
    nice one mate! let me know how you do

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kitchin75 View Post
    how many tac have you made
    officially this is my 3rd, although the first had various versions. i've posted some test tactics here and there too

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