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Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2

  1. Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2

    First of all,my apologizes because im spanish and my english is a little poor

    This is a tactic inspired in form in Elhazel 3-5-2 and in soul in Mr Langvatn tactics with tips from jesaustralia so thank you guys for keep alive fm13 .

    The Formation :

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-dibujo-tactico.png

    This is how it look "in paper" but in ofence I can say it looks like a 3-3-4 :

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-formacion-en-ataque.png

    And in defense :

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-accion-defensiva.png

    Type Of Players: (thanks to jesaustralia for the great work )

    Quote Originally Posted by jesaustralia View Post
    The Filter For Most Tactics

    All Players Key Attributes - Decent 12 - Exellent 16+:
    Strenght - Stamina - Workrate - Decisions - Acceleration (Pace 10+ - But not important)

    Central Defenders 14+:
    Tackling - Marking - Positioning - Concentration - Composure - Anticipation - Jumping - Strenght - Heading - Acceleration - Decisions - Bravery - Aggression - Teamwork (Training: Central Defender schedule & Sweeper Schedule)

    Great PPM'S:
    Simple passes - Tight Marking - Tries To Play Way Out Of Trouble - Does Not Dive Into Tackles - Shot With Power (Corners)


    FullBacks/Wingbacks 14+:
    Tackling - Marking - Workrate - Acceleration - Pace - Stamina - Positioning - Crossing - Decisions - Concentration - Anticipation - Strenght (Training: Wingback schedule - Defensive winger schedule - Fullback schedule)Great PPM'S:
    RWB Down L/R - Get Forward Whenever Possible - Tight Marking - Knock Ball Past Opponent - Avoid using weak foot -
    Likes to switch ball to other flank - Tries to play way out of trouble - Curl ball - Arrives late in oppositions area -
    does not dive into tackles - looks for pass rather than attempting to score - shot with power


    DMC/Box To Box Midfielders 14+:
    Strenght - Stamina - Workrate
    - Acceleration - positioning - Tackling - Marking - Positioning - Decisions - Jumping - Anticipation - Concentration - Composure - Technique - Finishing - Teamwork
    (Training: Defensive midfielder schedule - Box To Box Schedule)

    Great PPM'S:
    Tight Marking - Tries to play way out of trouble - one two's - killer balls - Shot with power -
    Look for pass rather than attempting to score - Arrives late in opposition area - Dive into tackles -
    Tries long range passes (If creative)


    Trequartista/Attacking Midfielder 14+:
    Passing - Creativity - Decisions - Composure - Anticipation - Finishing - First touch - Technique - Acceleration - Strenght - Flair - Offball - Teamwork - First touch(Training: Trequartista schedule - Attacking midfielder schedule)

    Great PPM'S:
    Killer balls - RWB Centre - Place shots - One two's - Dictate tempo - Knock ball past opponent - Tries first time shots -
    Curls ball

    Wingers/Inside Forwards 14+:
    Acceleration - Pace - Crossing - Offball - Decisions - Dribbling - Technique - First touch - Flair - Stamina - Finishing - (Composure - Anticipation) (Training: Winger schedule - Poacher schedule)

    Great PPM'S:
    RWB L/R - Get FW whenever possible - Place Shots - Knock ball past opponent - Likes to switch ball to the other side -
    Likes to round keeper - Curl ball
    (Training:


    Striker/Complete forward 14+:
    Finishing - Offball - Strenght - Composure - Anticipation - Acceleration - Pace 12+ - First touch - Jumping - Heading
    (Training: Complete forward schedule - Targetman schedule)

    Great PPM'S:
    RWB through centre - Place shots - Move into channels - Beat offside trap - Round keeper - Knock ball past opponent -
    Tries first time shots - Curl ball

    Guys I have used lots of hours putting this together and I know it works. PPM's is not needed, but if you train your players it can never hurt, its how I would do it. Like the post if you find this useful. Feel free to add your opinion!. Sorry about the attached image I don't know how to get rid of it.

    Cheers
    ADDED IMPORTANT INFORMATION THANKS TO champion7891

    Quote Originally Posted by champion7891 View Post
    when i got Morelli he wasnt young but he was a good all round striker so I just put him on CF with maybe 3 months in between on set pieces. The rest were all target men type so I put them on Poacher training. Brandi was the odd one out, a natural AMC who is accomplished as a striker so I just put him on CF. Surprised that when the time came to move him out of youth to 1st team he was better as a target man type complete forward than AMC. this was his 1st season in 1st team

    mostly I like well rounded players though with Mr. Ls tactics that changed where I focused on strength. So for Mr. L tactics my training changed, I would use target man training or weak strikers and defensive mid/box to box for my CMs/DMs.

    But in general as I said I like well rounded players. So if i get a tall slow striker then I like to increase his pace so in his early years I put him poacher before moving to CF. If I want to train flair and crossing that I move to winger training if good finishing and first touch else I move to advanced forward. Similarly I train all my CMs/DMs and even center defenders as strikers/complete forwards to increase all physical attributes and creativity/passing for defenders and all round skills for midfielders. when they are about 1 year away from the first team i shift them to their proper position training, like Box to box for DMs and BPD for CD. I train my fullbacks as wide midfielders and have them on a mix of winger/defensive winger training to increase pace, acc, dribb, and crossing.

    As for AMC yes I train full time CF, but with my main AMC koffi he already had great finishing (for a young 15 year old AMC) so I didnt put him on CF but trained him Box to box to improve strength and all round skills, then around 17 i trained him CM to improve creativity and team work and then shifted to trequartista to improve flair and finishing. but generally I train all my AMC as STs on CF schedule (not a big fan of trequartista training)
    Quote Originally Posted by champion7891 View Post
    SQUAD (UPDATED)

    This is how I use my players when available. Does not mean that they are used most effectively. For.e.g my right winger is a left footer with 18 crossing, he may do even better on the left. My second choice AMC is probably not the best choice as AMC etc. My second choice left winger is basically an AM/CM hybrid with decent finishing and poor crossing etc.

    Strikers
    1st choice

    Attachment 749145Attachment 749148

    PPM for Morelli: runs with ball through center, runs with ball often, rounds keeper, plays one-two
    PPM for Brandi: None
    2nd choice
    1st one sold...not good enough technical
    Attachment 749153
    Attachment 749155
    PPMs: None

    Most of my strikers are very very good in the air. My corner setup:
    Attachment 749168
    My strikers are still set to swap positions. That means that sometimes Morelli is there at the near post and sometimes Brandi so they share goals.

    AMC

    Attachment 749171Attachment 749174

    Koffi PPM: Runs with ball through center, runs with ball often
    Vassel PPM: Runs with ball through center, plays one-two

    Vassel was primarily a CM that I used as a wide midfielder in WoW tactic but since he is 4 stars I didnt want to sell him so I retrained him as AMC trequartista.

    AMR (right wing)

    b/c originally Bwomper suggested that these roles are inside forwards so I went with opposite foot
    Attachment 749250Attachment 749254
    Tilguath PPM: runs with ball down center, runs with ball down left
    Song PPM: runs with ball through center

    AML (left wing)
    Attachment 749255Attachment 749257
    Ragusa PPM: runs with ball through center, runs with ball often, round keeper, plays one two, avoids weaker foot
    West PPM: runs with ball through center, hits free kicks with power, plays one two

    DMs
    1st choice
    Attachment 749259Attachment 749262
    PPMs: None

    2nd choice
    Attachment 749263Attachment 749266
    Bianchini PPM: marks opponents tightly, long range passes
    Efthymiou PPM: none

    my DMs are all DMs, two could naturally play CM. But I have trained all of them as AMCs and trequartista (as I read Jes said that he used players like David Silva as DM) this has perhaps lead to them losing the 17 pace that I mentioned before, now they are at 16. So I will perhaps remove this for next season and make them back to proper DMs?

    Defenders
    1st choice
    Attachment 749268Attachment 749269Attachment 749272
    Sannuto PPM: runs with ball down right, plays one two, marks opponents tightly, knocks ball past opponent
    Capucilli PPM: marks opponents tightly, does not dive into tackles
    Joseph PPM: runs with ball down left, gets forward whenever possible, knocks ball past opponents, marks opponents tightly

    As you can see, my first choice defense consists of two retrained fullbacks. They are world class and I was lucky to find FBS with great strength and jumping, so I retrained them to DC rather than selling them and they have been a huge success. I mentioned before but their attacking instincts and PPMs dont make them a liability but they make them more fun attacking wise. Not sure if its due to PPM or PIs but I see them sometimes dribble from my box to opposition box and they cause havoc as the opposition dont know how to treat them. I wold recommend these sort of DCR/DCL

    2nd choice
    Attachment 749298Attachment 749301Attachment 749303
    PPMs: Marks opponents tightly for all three

    These were my 1st choice DCs for WoW, they've become backup with Frankenstein.

    GK
    just OKish IMO

    Attachment 749306















    Leagues fixtures and some stats:

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-partidos.png Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-madrid-barsa.png Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-fuera.png Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-casa_champions.png

    OI :

    Its saved in the tactic but I dont know why ml or mr not so for this positions put "hard tackle" manually


    The trainning :

    Pre-season: (I suggest at least 6 away games vs mid level teams)

    General Trainning : team cohesion on very high ----50%---- Match Trainning : tactics only Rest Before match

    Season : ( when you see it fluid )

    General Trainning : team cohesion on low ----50%---- Match Trainning : Def.Positioning (since with this tactic you need to have good central defenders I think even if your attack is not very high level is good to focus on defense)

    Individual trainning :

    GK-->Sweeper Keeper

    CB--> Ball playing defenders

    DM--> Box to box midfielders

    AMR/AML/AMC/STRIKERS--> Complete forward


    *NOTE: On corner settings I pick to search for goal a striker ( need to be strong with good heading and tall ) but you can change it to CB without problem.


    Its the first tactic I upload with my own thread so Im sorry if I miss something lol

    Need testers with mid level teams,high teams and low teams and maybe we can improve this tactic .

    Thanks anyways


    EDITED: ‚Äč Added a revised OI+new corner settings of the tactic.

    Anyway seems like the mr/ml position in the OI didnt save it so you have to put them for each game in that way : Marking Always-Hard tackle and show on to foot : for mr->left foot for ml:right foot


    ADDED MORE TWEAKED TACTICS BY JESAUSTRALIA ( AWESOME !! )

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    Added Frankenstein - 2nd visit by Jesaustralia
    Last edited by bwomper; 15/01/2015 at 09:59 PM.

  2. I took on the job of Everton.. Media prediction is 12th place, so mid table team. Played I think 7 friendlies. A few screenshots of the 1st few games.

    1st of season V Stoke (Had 2 players sent off, and played 60 mins with no strikers)

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-everton-v-stoke_-stats-match-stats.png

    Chelsea away.

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-chelsea-v-everton_-stats-match-stats.png

    Capital 1 cup against Derby.

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-everton-v-derby_-stats-match-stats.png

    1st Home game against Cardiff.

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-everton-v-cardiff_-stats-match-stats.png

    Arsenal Away. Is only bad result so far.

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-arsenal-v-everton_-stats-match-stats.png

    So lots of possesion and a lot of chances created. Is a good tactic and is very nice to watch. Also have been fluid with tactic since 1st game of season!
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  3. Great results mate,thanks for try the tactic. Arrg this lost vs Arsenal,but I think for a team like Everton is good result anyway. What about the corner settings? do you use a strong striker or a central defender in the first post?

  4. I am using a strong striker who's name I can't spell without looking at it a few times. If he is not fit or have subbed him then I use a tall CD who has good heading ability. As for Arsenal game we played well as average rating for team was only just below Arsenal, I feel it was a good result as we only lost by one goal.

    Is also a pleasure for me to try new tactics out, so I am happy that you created this one and made it available for others to test.
    Last edited by Ossis Mandos; 20/10/2014 at 09:25 PM. Reason: Forgot to add something
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  5. Im working in a version of my arrigo sacchi tweaked tactic, a 4-3-3-0 ,but its in development. If someone want to test it just send me a private.

    Back on this tactic, Ossis,let me know how your 4 of the front doing it and your 3 of the back too. Are they a quick central defenders?

  6. My CD's are not the quickest, I have my slowest CD in the center. The other 2 are not slow but average about 13 acceleration and pace. Not understand the 4 up front part. Sorry!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Ossis Mandos View Post
    My CD's are not the quickest, I have my slowest CD in the center. The other 2 are not slow but average about 13 acceleration and pace. Not understand the 4 up front part. Sorry!
    the 2 strikers and the 2 IF

  8. OK, I get you now. I just played 6 more games and since defeat by Arsenal, my players are not playing as well. The Strikers and IF were on fire 1st 5 games with RIF averaging 9.4 I think and now is about 7.5. So they were doing great and now not so good, confidence is good, just not able to understand why form or results have dropped with all players. Not playing terrible but make silly mistakes. I have won 2, drew 3 and lost 1. So is perhaps not as bad as I think it is. Attacking wise we look fantastic at times, just not putting away the chances we are creating!
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Ossis Mandos View Post
    OK, I get you now. I just played 6 more games and since defeat by Arsenal, my players are not playing as well. The Strikers and IF were on fire 1st 5 games with RIF averaging 9.4 I think and now is about 7.5. So they were doing great and now not so good, confidence is good, just not able to understand why form or results have dropped with all players. Not playing terrible but make silly mistakes. I have won 2, drew 3 and lost 1. So is perhaps not as bad as I think it is. Attacking wise we look fantastic at times, just not putting away the chances we are creating!
    7.5 is not too bad ( when the results are good of course ) Yeah,I have silly mistakes too with Real Madrid,all with my goalkeeper who I dont know why give the ball to the opponent striker lol I will try to fix that. Im working with a new OI also, if work well I will reupload the tactic with the changes.

    One thing you can try is in some games change def.positioning to attacking movement and see what happend. Thanks again for try the tactic.

  10. New results and league table at this moment :

    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-arsenal-fuera.png Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-betis-fuera.png Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-bilbao-casa.png Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-sevilla-casa.png
    Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-valencia-fuera.png Frankenstein Tactic 3-2-3-2-league-table.png
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