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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Tezzz View Post
    Doesn't for me. I've got my own trick.

    Offer the player out for 0% of the transfer fee. You'll get a few offers. Reject them all and then offer him out for face value or a bit more. You may not get offers straight away but there will definitely be more interest.

    I've managed to sell Lovren, Lucas, Enrique and Mignolet using this technique at Liverpool. Lovren got me 18 mil over 12 months. Lucas was 10mil up front and 8mil over 12 months.

    Hope that helps you mate.
    Quote Originally Posted by MANUMAD View Post
    Im aware of this trick too. But using Raikan's method and being patient and realistic about using players before selling them etc I mostly receive lump sums instead of instalments.

    You have to do the negotiations righ also - offer players out at 200% then start lowering as per Raikan then you receive an offer you must be careful - eg:

    Llorente - valued at 9.5 so first offer out is 19m. Then start wiping out 500k per day. At offer out 14 mil you get offer by Valencia for 7m plus instalments and additions. Reject the add ons and lower counter offer at 13m. They will offer a bit more and come back with add ons. Now reject add ons and exclude from negotiations and counter offer at 13.25m (or 12.75). They will raise it to about 10. Then raise it to 12 and they agree. Its not exactly that and cant really be explained but its a matter of being patient and haggling realistically.
    The question is, do you transfer list them as well, or only offer them out? How many games did they play the season before you sold them? What are their contract lengths? How well did they perform when they played? Do they want to leave and initiated the transfer listing themselves, or did they become upset when you tried to sell them?

    Yup, I like details.

  2. Is it me or is this the easiest fm since 12?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by mld81 View Post
    Is it me or is this the easiest fm since 12?
    Its you. I find the tactics especially quite hard to understand/get right.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mersk View Post
    The question is, do you transfer list them as well, or only offer them out? How many games did they play the season before you sold them? What are their contract lengths? How well did they perform when they played? Do they want to leave and initiated the transfer listing themselves, or did they become upset when you tried to sell them?

    Yup, I like details.
    1. When you offer them out first time they get transferlisted also. They remain transfer listed.
    2. As for matches, it depends. Id say around 15 incl as subs.
    3. I rarely if ever sell players when they initiate transfers. I tend to force them to stay

  5. Quote Originally Posted by MANUMAD View Post
    1. When you offer them out first time they get transferlisted also. They remain transfer listed.
    2. As for matches, it depends. Id say around 15 incl as subs.
    3. I rarely if ever sell players when they initiate transfers. I tend to force them to stay
    That 1st point depends on your settings though. Do you have the 'transfer list and change status to not needed' ticked?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by mersk View Post
    That 1st point depends on your settings though. Do you have the 'transfer list and change status to not needed' ticked?
    Yes. Never thought to not have it actually in 4 years now ...

  7. Player recommendation ahoy!:

    Sassa - AM allover/ST off Cruzeiro. 22 yo (i think) who will develop and score loads.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by MANUMAD View Post
    Not as well as before but yes, it does - sold EVER BANEGA (valued at 17.5m) for 31.5m earlier today, using it.

    Also Adil Rami - valued 3.5m at 31 and I got 4m for him, again earlier today. An Llorente - valued at 9m (at 31) sold at 12mil.

    So it works. Not as well as before and not always for double or near it money but its more realistic like this. Also dont expect to sell deadwood you never use that easily. You need to give people matches before selling them etc.
    Which sell for 200% trick is that then?


  9. Quote Originally Posted by Nom de Guerre View Post
    Which sell for 200% trick is that then?
    This, G... mate: The How to Sell My Player Thread: Raikan007
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  10. Just read it all and I have only one word to say: AWESOMEEE!!!

    Really liked it. Even understood a bit better how to make tactics & everything.
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  11. Mad; Do you set your players to get crosses to the far post? It seems a real good way of scoring goals in fm16.
    Would your wingers cross to the far post even if there's no one at the far post jjust because I set cross aim to far post?

    Also, have you found a way to make your wingers cross earlier? preferably on the first or second touch, mine always wait too long and get closed down from really good crossing positions!
    early crosses they just cross from 40yrds out, its not what I want.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by zindrinho View Post
    Mad; Do you set your players to get crosses to the far post? It seems a real good way of scoring goals in fm16.
    Would your wingers cross to the far post even if there's no one at the far post jjust because I set cross aim to far post?

    Also, have you found a way to make your wingers cross earlier? preferably on the first or second touch, mine always wait too long and get closed down from really good crossing positions!
    early crosses they just cross from 40yrds out, its not what I want.

    The work ball into box and retain possession TI reduce crosses if that helps
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by zindrinho View Post
    Mad; Do you set your players to get crosses to the far post? It seems a real good way of scoring goals in fm16.
    Would your wingers cross to the far post even if there's no one at the far post jjust because I set cross aim to far post?

    Also, have you found a way to make your wingers cross earlier? preferably on the first or second touch, mine always wait too long and get closed down from really good crossing positions!
    early crosses they just cross from 40yrds out, its not what I want.
    I never give that detailed PIs. I set up team tactics with team instructions to do what I want to do and use roles who do what I want to do. I find that too many instructions tend to be counter productive (and confusing to me) so I prefer to do stuff which is obvious to me and that is the TIs.

    I generally play (gegen)pressing with fast tempo and have the "cross early" TI which tends to be effective (I use two wingers). But I play reactively. If this set up doesnt work then I change to "look for overlap". Plus I use 3 different formations (one strikerless) with TIs that are quite similar. I also have a set of saved instructions to use in specific circumstances and/or according to how matches pan out. But the cross early/look for overlap tend to work OK. Both of them work fine with also having the "work ball into the box" instruction.

    If you want people to cross higher up the field then give instructions "cross from byline" (plus maybe "move up field more" - dont remember the exact wording). But look also into your formation, tactics and TIs ...

  14. Bump

  15. Three awesome loans in the first couple of seasons costing (next to) nothing:

    Kelvin AMR
    Boschilia M(L)/C
    Andreas Pereira

    Kelvin and Pereira become available on frees within 3 seasons ...

  16. There are loads of players you can grab for free - potentially. In addition to the three you listed, the likes of Sondre Rossbach and Morten Konradsen can be signed on July 1st, and while they won't arrive until the end of 2015, buying out their contracts is usually very inexpensive. Neither are clear starters for a bigger club but solid promising depth players. In England, Josh Brownhilll and Demarai Gray will sometimes refuse to extend and can be signed in 2016. Geronimo Ruilli will a top goalkeeper for years for almost any club. Lucas Romero is out of contract before too long.

    The one thing about signing these guys on a free - offer above what they ask. Both in terms of wages and role. With a club of decent size (Championship or above), the likes of Rossbach and Konradsen will accept Hot Prospect deals.... but there are other bidders who are bigger. And when you are bidding against the likes Manchester United and Juventus. Make the offer a blowaway and they will take it. If they player is someone like Ruilli or Romero and likely to be a key player for you, pay over the odds to make sure you land them. You're getting away with no transfer fee, so....
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Bigpapa42 View Post
    There are loads of players you can grab for free - potentially. In addition to the three you listed, the likes of Sondre Rossbach and Morten Konradsen can be signed on July 1st, and while they won't arrive until the end of 2015, buying out their contracts is usually very inexpensive. ....
    Who is KONRADSEN?! What position does he play in?

  18. Morten Konradsen is a 19 year old Norwegein CM. Starts wit Bodo/Glint. He's a decent player at the start, with solid potential. Probably wouldn't want to have him as a regular starter for a Prem club, but he does okay as a spot starter in the Championship. He's more attacking than fully rounded but not totally one-dimensional. Also not quite an outright creative hub. Probably develops into a solid depth player for most good sized or bigger clubs rather than a key star.

    His contract expires at the end of December, so you can make an offer as of July 1st. As mentioned, he will accept a Hot Prospect contract but he might accept another offer, so I go Rotation and it should land him. And buying out the contract so you get him immediately is like 60k.

    Stole this, but...

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  19. younger brother of Anders Konradsen (now Rosenborg, prev Stade Rennes),
    he is a good talent but never turned out to be the amongst the best in Norwegian Prem on the prev FM versions, maybe his potential is buffed for FM16 but IDK.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by zindrinho View Post
    younger brother of Anders Konradsen (now Rosenborg, prev Stade Rennes),
    he is a good talent but never turned out to be the amongst the best in Norwegian Prem on the prev FM versions, maybe his potential is buffed for FM16 but IDK.
    He's 4 to 4.5 stars for a Championship club. So he should have the potential to develop into one of the better players in Norway if you could keep him there.

  21. Franco Lopez - AML/CF. Very young and cheap(ish) Argentinian wonderkid who quickly turns awesome. VV recommended

  22. Cheap -ish GKs

    Itumeleng Khune
    Lealli
    Consigli (nevermind his age the guy is a hero)
    Perin (not as awesome as he was in previous versions but still solid)
    Marcelo Grohe (Gremio's No1 is great and will improve)
    Rossbach
    Augustin Marchesin - not expensive and the equal of GKs costing thrice as much!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by MANUMAD View Post
    Itumeleng Khune
    Lealli
    Consigli (nevermind his age the guy is a hero)
    Perin (not as awesome as he was in previous versions but still solid)
    Marcelo Grohe (Gremio's No1 is great and will improve)
    Rossbach
    Augustin Marchesin - not expensive and the equal of GKs costing thrice as much!
    Who should I get to back up De Gea who wont mind barely ever playing. in 2019 or so at United

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Average Joe View Post
    Who should I get to back up De Gea who wont mind barely ever playing. in 2019 or so at United
    Marcelo Grohe maybe - though you may have wp problems.

    One of the Italians? Perin?

  25. Hello Uncle Mad and everyone else,

    Hopefully I'm posting this in the right area. If not please let me know where I should post it and I'll get it moved.

    I'm looking for one final save once the January update has been released and I'd like to be at one club for many seasons and turn them into a super club, so we can challenge the big teams in Europe.

    Now some people will think that's easy and suggest teams in Europe's top leagues, like England, Spain, Germany, Italy, France, Holland, Russia etc, but I want a challenge and would like a team in a smaller, lesser known European country.
    Somewhere that has 3/4 teams challenging to win the league every season, so the domestic challenge will still be interesting for a good few years, while also attempting to crack the European competitions along the way.

    The other criteria I have is that I'd like a team that hasn't had much success, so I can begin to work my way to a legendary status. The ground isn't too big, so over time I can help build a bigger stadium, possibly being named after myself and also I can build and develop the youth facilities, so in time we can bring through our own youngsters.
    At the start, I'll need to sell some players to help begin our pathway to success, but also, be able to bring in some good players, so the country will need a fair amount of appeal and then those players can be sold on for a profit, as the likelihood is they'll want to move to a bigger club until I build my legacy. Finally, I don't want the club to begin with paying players big wages, for example anything above 2k a week, as I want to build everything from scratch pretty much, so if not a team in the highest division, the division below will be good enough.

    I know it's a lot to look for, but surely there is a few teams out there that I could look to manage, so I'd really appreciate any ideas/suggestions any of you may have.

    Thanks for reading and look forward to some replies.

    Andy

    P.S I know I messaged you about a similar request Uncle Mad, but thought I'd post in here in case anyone had any interesting suggestions.
    Last edited by AndySams10; 08/02/2016 at 12:51 AM.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AndySams10 View Post
    Hello Uncle Mad and everyone else,

    Hopefully I'm posting this in the right area. If not please let me know where I should post it and I'll get it moved.

    I'm looking for one final save once the January update has been released and I'd like to be at one club for many seasons and turn them into a super club, so we can challenge the big teams in Europe.

    Now some people will think that's easy and suggest teams in Europe's top leagues, like England, Spain, Germany, Italy, France, Holland, Russia etc, but I want a challenge and would like a team in a smaller, lesser known European country.
    Somewhere that has 3/4 teams challenging to win the league every season, so the domestic challenge will still be interesting for a good few years, while also attempting to crack the European competitions along the way.

    The other criteria I have is that I'd like a team that hasn't had much success, so I can begin to work my way to a legendary status. The ground isn't too big, so over time I can help build a bigger stadium, possibly being named after myself and also I can build and develop the youth facilities, so in time we can bring through our own youngsters.
    At the start, I'll need to sell some players to help begin our pathway to success, but also, be able to bring in some good players, so the country will need a fair amount of appeal and then those players can be sold on for a profit, as the likelihood is they'll want to move to a bigger club until I build my legacy. Finally, I don't want the club to begin with paying players big wages, for example anything above 2k a week, as I want to build everything from scratch pretty much, so if not a team in the highest division, the division below will be good enough.

    I know it's a lot to look for, but surely there is a few teams out there that I could look to manage, so I'd really appreciate any ideas/suggestions any of you may have.

    Thanks for reading and look forward to some replies.

    Andy

    P.S I know I messaged you about a similar request Uncle Mad, but thought I'd post in here in case anyone had any interesting suggestions.
    So that people know some of my suggestions:

    Midtjylland
    Brondby
    Asteras Tripolis (Greece)
    Anji (Russia)
    Metalurg Donetsk

    To these I would add:

    Cluj or Craiova in Romania - for the latter you can easily sell star player Ivan for at least 10m and use funds to strengthen

    Look also at Israel leagues.
    Last edited by MANUMAD; 09/02/2016 at 08:22 PM.
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  27. My Hoffenheim Squad 2nd season

    In my first season I came 2nd in the league a LONG WAY off Bayern but I won the cup. I then sold VOLLAND to city for 60m and was given 40m on top of that by the board.

    So this is my squad:

    GK: Rulli/Baumann/Marko Maric

    LB: Jorge/Troljan/Jin-Su

    CB: Schaar/Mangala/Sviatchenko/Sule/Stark/Wahlqvist

    RB: Jedvaj (loan)/Kaderabek/Schmid

    DM/CM: Weigl/Nedelceanu/Sebastian Rudy/Fossum

    AMS:Vargas/Zivkovic/Zuber/Sisto/Martial (v cheap loan!)/Zuber/Amiri

    ST: Pavon/Andrei Ivan/Luan/Davie Selke

    Also bought Sergio Diaz but loaned him out

  28. I found out something strange today: my tactics work better if I holiday over matches rather than if I watch matches!!!

  29. I often wonder if Football manager is over thought, we all seem to want to play it using real life football, after seeing some of the bugs and issues with Goalkeepers etc.. i don't think you should, its a game, its not real life i think if you can get a grasp of the match engine and find a tactic that can beat it then i don't really think it needs to be over thought.

    Ive played every Football manager going back to the original on the Spectrum, since it started from Championship manager to football manager and each game ive found it to be all about the tactic, in the early days it was fairly simple to find a tactic and win things, however the last couple of FM's have been harder, but on FM 2015 i found a quality tactic and that was it, i won everything from small teams to the bigger teams.

    Ive tried everything from finding players only using the star system from scouts, to averaging out and focusing on the attributes for the roles, and i havent found any difference in how the game works, if the tactic doesnt get past the bugs in the match engine you will struggle, you can have the best players in the world but you won't have consistent success, get a consistent tactic and decent enough players and you win.

    I rarely ever watch the game at all, i mainly only ever use the commentary, i test loads and loads of tactics when i first get the new FM and you can always tell a consistent tactic, one that has managed to bypass the bugs, once i have found the right tactic i rarely ever need to find another for that years FM. i like to try and tweak a tactic here and there for away fixtures.

    What worries me about future FM games is that SI seem to be trying to make a more and more realistic game yet seem to create more and more bugs in the system, for me i think its the reason that this years FM is so hard to find any tactic that can consistently get past the bugs.

    Its so frustrating that its any lack of real life football knowledge that stops the tactic from working, but a poor match engine.
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  30. Hahahaha - this from FOOTIE365 is priceless:

    Geography with Merse
    Expert Paul Merson on Tottenham on Sky Sports: ‘Foreign managers usually like the Europa League, but I don’t think they should go for it.
    ‘They should be careful in Europe. It’s quite a big place.’
    He’s not wrong.
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  31. Quote Originally Posted by coolestrock View Post
    I often wonder if Football manager is over thought, we all seem to want to play it using real life football, after seeing some of the bugs and issues with Goalkeepers etc.. i don't think you should, its a game, its not real life i think if you can get a grasp of the match engine and find a tactic that can beat it then i don't really think it needs to be over thought.

    Ive played every Football manager going back to the original on the Spectrum, since it started from Championship manager to football manager and each game ive found it to be all about the tactic, in the early days it was fairly simple to find a tactic and win things, however the last couple of FM's have been harder, but on FM 2015 i found a quality tactic and that was it, i won everything from small teams to the bigger teams.

    Ive tried everything from finding players only using the star system from scouts, to averaging out and focusing on the attributes for the roles, and i havent found any difference in how the game works, if the tactic doesnt get past the bugs in the match engine you will struggle, you can have the best players in the world but you won't have consistent success, get a consistent tactic and decent enough players and you win.

    I rarely ever watch the game at all, i mainly only ever use the commentary, i test loads and loads of tactics when i first get the new FM and you can always tell a consistent tactic, one that has managed to bypass the bugs, once i have found the right tactic i rarely ever need to find another for that years FM. i like to try and tweak a tactic here and there for away fixtures.

    What worries me about future FM games is that SI seem to be trying to make a more and more realistic game yet seem to create more and more bugs in the system, for me i think its the reason that this years FM is so hard to find any tactic that can consistently get past the bugs.

    Its so frustrating that its any lack of real life football knowledge that stops the tactic from working, but a poor match engine.
    This is an interesting post even if I dont agree with most of it. Plus it encourages discussion which, in some ways is what this thread is here for.

    With every iteration in relation to tactics I always work in two ways: playing around with tactics in a realistic way based on how I like to see teams play (pressing, fast passes and lots of wing play) and trying to find a tactic/set up that frustrates the ME.

    But, apart from FM15 post the January patch (which ballsed up completely the ability of players to close down and thereby killed almost all my attempts at STRIKERLESS), I havent found the ME particularly problematic in recent years. My tactics seemed to work the way I wanted and were more than reasonably successful. This is still the case.

    At the same time the fact that currently my tactical set up seems to work much better when I holiday over matches rather than when actually watch them shows that you are not (entirely) wrong.

    Another thing which adds to tactical realism is that the same tactics dont work equally well in all leagues. I think there's a difficulty spike in the British leagues to be honest.

  32. Quote Originally Posted by MANUMAD View Post
    This is an interesting post even if I dont agree with most of it. Plus it encourages discussion which, in some ways is what this thread is here for.

    With every iteration in relation to tactics I always work in two ways: playing around with tactics in a realistic way based on how I like to see teams play (pressing, fast passes and lots of wing play) and trying to find a tactic/set up that frustrates the ME.

    But, apart from FM15 post the January patch (which ballsed up completely the ability of players to close down and thereby killed almost all my attempts at STRIKERLESS), I havent found the ME particularly problematic in recent years. My tactics seemed to work the way I wanted and were more than reasonably successful. This is still the case.

    At the same time the fact that currently my tactical set up seems to work much better when I holiday over matches rather than when actually watch them shows that you are not (entirely) wrong.

    Another thing which adds to tactical realism is that the same tactics dont work equally well in all leagues. I think there's a difficulty spike in the British leagues to be honest.



    As i only play the game using commentary Is the match engine different for playing on commentary or holidaying through rather than watching the game on say Extended or Comprehensive ? i've watched people play the game on You Tube and some of the silly bugs that happen on Extended is shocking, do these bugs happen if its just in commentary ?

    I would like a crack at making my own tactics based on how i like to play football, ive tried but never got them to work, so ive always relied on downloading tactics, luckily i have always found one that works, so i guess i tend to play the game without my own playing philosophy ( i do think i miss out in some respect not doing my own tactics) to be honest it takes a lot of time watching the game on Extended or Comprehensive so i think its part of what turns me off.

    Could you PM me or post them here you're definitive ways you make a tactic work, what visual clues to look for to tell something is wrong and how to put it right, maybe if i get my own tactics right i might be less cynical in how the game actually works. Are there any visual clues on making the tactic work using just commentary or do you have to watch on Extended ?

  33. Quote Originally Posted by coolestrock View Post
    As i only play the game using commentary Is the match engine different for playing on commentary or holidaying through rather than watching the game on say Extended or Comprehensive ? i've watched people play the game on You Tube and some of the silly bugs that happen on Extended is shocking, do these bugs happen if its just in commentary ?
    What you must realise is that for all its realism, FM is still code. Whats more the ME is a way of portraying that code. So within that and in order perhaps to avoid boredom of having loads of fouls and dead time and lack of attacks that you see in most real matches the ME must contrive to keep the scores etc realistic. Therefore stuff WILL happen especially on comprehensive which will appear ridiculous or stupid or buggy when in reality they are the ME's way of doing what I have just explained.

    I sometimes have one plug and play tactic which Ive downloaded, one downloaded tactic that I have tweaked and my own tactic that I use mainly. The first one is employed when I want to speed up stuff (ie when matches dont mean anything cos Ive already won the league) by holidaying or by watching on key. The other two I use to play my favourite way: reactively. I rarely use comprehensive (I mainly only use it when Im tweaking/making a tactic) and usually I start with extended look at stuff, react to them and if/when I think Im comfortable (usually going 2 goals in front does it) I switch to key. If then the other team scores I will switch back to extended and see what needs changing.

    In my experience no real bugs/ridiculous things happen on extended (with rare and acceptable exceptions). Im bothered however by other ME stuff such as in FM16 the very loose closing down which means that my pressing tactics (especially necessary with STRIKERLESS which I like) dont work as well as in previous versions.


    Quote Originally Posted by coolestrock View Post
    I would like a crack at making my own tactics based on how i like to play football, ive tried but never got them to work, so ive always relied on downloading tactics, luckily i have always found one that works, so i guess i tend to play the game without my own playing philosophy ( i do think i miss out in some respect not doing my own tactics) to be honest it takes a lot of time watching the game on Extended or Comprehensive so i think its part of what turns me off.
    As you can see from my above comments I understand your feelings. But as I explain it doesnt take as much as you think and, I really cannot understand why somebody would buy a football management simulation and then, well, refuse to actually manage. Tactics is the core of fooball management imho.


    Quote Originally Posted by coolestrock View Post
    Could you PM me or post them here you're definitive ways you make a tactic work, what visual clues to look for to tell something is wrong and how to put it right, maybe if i get my own tactics right i might be less cynical in how the game actually works. Are there any visual clues on making the tactic work using just commentary or do you have to watch on Extended?
    I think provided you use certain basic principles (some of which I try to explain here) and you dont do stupid stuff (such as putting a player in the anchorman position with the intention of protecting your back four but make him a bwm which means he ll chase the ball holder of the opposition which means he wont be protecting the back four!) all tactics can "work". I also think that the only way to see if they work is by watching matches (at least at the tactic tuning stage) on comprehensive or extended.

    Ive been meaning to share my effective tactics which Ive been using for some years, but it needs time and effort to do it (especially since I need to write loads to explain how I react to tweak during matches) and I barely have any ...
    Last edited by MANUMAD; 05/08/2016 at 10:14 AM.

  34. Quirky cheap players

    Ion Nedelceanu - Not very expensive but very great cb/dm who is young and will improve
    Linus Wahlqvist - Young awesome cb who will quickly improve
    Anrei Ivan - young effective and not very expensive cf
    Gabriel Iancu - young effective am(c)
    Niculae (Nicusor)
    Stanciu
    - still great am
    Cristian Manea - Young romanian cb with good stats
    Ergys Kace - 21yo Albanian youngster MC
    Stanica Mandic - AMC/CF
    Alfred Duncan - MC (Sassuolo)
    De Arrascaeta - CF/AM Needs a bit of work on his finishing but is a great young all rounder
    Augustinsson - DL/AML 21 years old
    Marius Lundemo
    Skjelvik- Speed merchant dl/wbl

  35. LOL This from football365

    Making a meal of it
    ‘Jermain Defoe hoping to ease Sunderland’s relegation fears after nutritious meal as he gears up for clash with Crystal Palace,’ read the MailOnline headline at 1pm on Tuesday. Curse them for missing Mediawatch’s deadline by an hour.
    ‘Defoe’s meal consisted of around 537 calories and the striker will be hoping to put in an energetic performance against the struggling Eagles.’
    Good to know that ‘man eats food to gain energy’ really is a news story.
    ‘The former Tottenham striker opted for tuna steak and a healthy portion of tagliatelle which were complimented by a side portion of tenderstem broccoli.’
    Oh tuna steak, how lovely you look in that dress. Have you had your hair cut, Miss Tagliatelle?
    Unfortunately, Defoe failed to score with any of his three shots against Palace on Tuesday. Burger and chips on Friday night?

  36. Bump maybe?

  37. BUMP

  38. Leicester

    Congrats to Leicester for what has been a truly exciting awesome season even to a lifelong Utd fan! I actually do have a minor connection to Leicester having got my first degree from Leicester Uni and this led me to show interest in their rise this year from very early on, watching their matches if on TV etc and I havent seen one boring match where they featured. Restored my faith in why footy is so unique inspiring and moving.

    Started a new Leicester save abt a month ago with the specific purpose of setting up the same tactics they use irl based on this very interesting article Watford striker Troy Deeney on why Leicester are so hard to beat - BBC Sport. What Deeney says and what I see with my own eyes led me to an FM first: using two bwms in the dm position in a 442 with two deep dms and two wingers (which is one of the formations that I use) with one instructed to hold position.

    Amazingly I won the EPL at the first attempt emulating real life (6 points ahead of Man Utd in 2nd but with 5 losses and not 3 as they have irl). Kept all players other than the vv slow (and thus impossible to succeed in FM) Marcin Wasilewski (sp) who I sold on a free in summer and also sold Inler in January for 1.2 million.

    Players I brought in:

    Mammana cb
    Balanta cb
    Nedelceanu cb/dm
    Divock Origi.

    Got knocked out in the cups in the qfs.
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  39. a Q on tactics if you're up for it, too dumb to post pics but no special TI or PI, 4-2(cm)-3-1 wide
    with MCL on CM(D) or BWM(D), MCR on BBM or DLP(S), AMR on Winger(S/A), AMC on AP(S), AML on IF(S/A)(always opposite S/A than AMR) and CF on AF.

    the problem is the AMC drops too deep in the AP role, and all 3 central players occupy the same space.
    I only win when I use an high pace/acc CF that runs in behind. stronger slower players just doesnt do it.
    the wing backs wont really make runs towards the byline so we have troubles stretching the defence.
    we dont even create chances like I've done with other teams playing like this, I play in Norwegian premier div with a mid table team (lillestrøm).
    we do have talented passers (12-13 pass,vis,ant,tech etc) but could it be we're just not good enough to play like this?

    any pointers on players in the same space? Read a lot and played a lot and usually do fine even with these problems, heading towards relegation now and really wanna solve this.

    oh, 4-4-2 would allow me to play both my TM striker and speady striker at the same time, but I have no idea how to pull off 4-4-2 this year..

  40. Quote Originally Posted by zindrinho View Post
    a Q on tactics if you're up for it, too dumb to post pics but no special TI or PI, 4-2(cm)-3-1 wide
    with MCL on CM(D) or BWM(D), MCR on BBM or DLP(S), AMR on Winger(S/A), AMC on AP(S), AML on IF(S/A)(always opposite S/A than AMR) and CF on AF.

    the problem is the AMC drops too deep in the AP role, and all 3 central players occupy the same space.
    I only win when I use an high pace/acc CF that runs in behind. stronger slower players just doesnt do it.
    the wing backs wont really make runs towards the byline so we have troubles stretching the defence.
    we dont even create chances like I've done with other teams playing like this, I play in Norwegian premier div with a mid table team (lillestrøm).
    we do have talented passers (12-13 pass,vis,ant,tech etc) but could it be we're just not good enough to play like this?

    any pointers on players in the same space? Read a lot and played a lot and usually do fine even with these problems, heading towards relegation now and really wanna solve this.

    oh, 4-4-2 would allow me to play both my TM striker and speady striker at the same time, but I have no idea how to pull off 4-4-2 this year..
    Maybe try using a Trequartista or a SS (support/attack) instead of the AP?

    Are you also asking about the wing backs not supporting enough?

    Btw is it the "deep" version of the 4231 (ie the one with the two players sitting in front of the cbs)?

  41. Quote Originally Posted by zindrinho View Post
    a Q on tactics if you're up for it, too dumb to post pics but no special TI or PI, 4-2(cm)-3-1 wide
    with MCL on CM(D) or BWM(D), MCR on BBM or DLP(S), AMR on Winger(S/A), AMC on AP(S), AML on IF(S/A)(always opposite S/A than AMR) and CF on AF.

    the problem is the AMC drops too deep in the AP role, and all 3 central players occupy the same space.
    I only win when I use an high pace/acc CF that runs in behind. stronger slower players just doesnt do it.
    the wing backs wont really make runs towards the byline so we have troubles stretching the defence.
    we dont even create chances like I've done with other teams playing like this, I play in Norwegian premier div with a mid table team (lillestrøm).
    we do have talented passers (12-13 pass,vis,ant,tech etc) but could it be we're just not good enough to play like this?

    any pointers on players in the same space? Read a lot and played a lot and usually do fine even with these problems, heading towards relegation now and really wanna solve this.

    oh, 4-4-2 would allow me to play both my TM striker and speady striker at the same time, but I have no idea how to pull off 4-4-2 this year..
    Have you set the instruction for your AMC to hold position? It may be set to roam which means he may end up close to another player
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  42. the 4-2-3-1 is not deep, I got 2 CM's

    I changed it up a bit, from flexible to structured and try to play simple football, kinda like the AI does against you.
    also set MCR to advanced PM, MCL to central mid defend, and the AMC to attacking midfielder attack, move into channels and more risky passes.

    I think the main problem was the AMC dropping deep leaving the striker alone, and the fact I tried to attack too much without good enough team and got countered on. the AMC is now my top scorer tho, even with striker as AF.
    with structured set up everyone is more aware of counter attack risk it seems, on fluid they all ran like headless chickens out of position

    A team meeting and these changes turned it all around, basically remove all TI/AI except pass shorter if opposition defence are tall strong guys.

  43. In my Leicester save, mentioned a few posts earlier, in trying to set up tactics to emulate how they play irl I chanced upon a way to greatly minimise effective crosses (and therefore leading goals). Its not very exciting to watch though as there is no overlapping wing attacks by my team.From memory (so I may forget a PI), what I did was the following:

    LB: Having what FUCHS does irl in mind (ie occasionally moving upfield and crossing) but also staying near to the cbs when defending Ive instructed the LB to sit narrow, cross from deep and shoot less (and gave him support duty) the idea is that together with my general tactical set up (mostly counter) he'll only occasionally get forward and not very far forward to support. I think I also have them not close down at all the idea being to force the opposition to cross early/not when they would prefer/against a defence that maintains its shape with two tall cbs always staying back and ready to head the ball away.

    CBL: Stopper duty, hold position instruction and no risky passes. The idea is that he will stay at cb at all times. I use Huth and Morgan as a template for cbs (Ive sold them but I have big guys good with heading at cb) so as irl I dont care if the other team crosses the ball as the CBs will always be in position to head the ball away. This, together with the fact that my FBs are rarely up field means that the opposition cant cross from byline and therefore floating crosses are their only option.

    CBR: Cover duty, otherwise the same PIs as the CBL

    FBR: Irl Simpson never moves up field. So I give the FBR defend duty, tell him to sit narrow and hold position. To make sure he doesnt stray I also tell him to shoot rarely.


    With this set up in defence the midfield set up becomes crucial (as do the am/cf positions) because they need to offer both creativity and goal scoring. Most of my matches are low scoring affairs (I win most by 1-0) though my counter tactics (having the same defence set up as above) do sometimes result in 4-2 and 2-0 scorlines against the better teams.

    Having won the league in my first season, in the second Im 2nd 3 points off Man Shitty, out of the League Cup in the semis at penalties v West Ham, in the 5th round of the FA CUP and having come 2nd in my CL group I got Barcelona (first match home a 2-2 draw - was losing 2-0 till the 74th minute).

    In the end I drew away vs Barca 1-1 so went out on away goals. In the EPL I finished 2nd 4 points from Shitty but I won the FA CUP. In my third season I again was thrown out the CL in the 2nd round but I won the league, the Charity Shield and the two cups.
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  44. BUMP!

    Almost 25000 views - for the upteenth year as well! Thanks guys!!!!
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  45. Perceptive punditry (from footie365)

    Trophy life
    Said Michael Owen on BT Sport last night: “A lot of finals, you either pick up the trophy or you don’t.”
    Thanks, Michael.

    The offside rule
    Said Owen Hargreaves on BT Sport last night: “He’s exactly where he needs to be… he’s just a little bit offside.”
    Thanks, Owen.

  46. "New" Wonderkids

    Djorkaeff Reasco - CF (develops nicely)
    Nemanja Antonov - DL
    Iorfa - CB/DR
    Denis Zakaria - CB/DM/CM
    Ondrej Kolar - GK
    Rui Pedro - CF
    Hidde Ter Avest - CB/DR

  47. "new" as in new for this thread, or new as in their PA has been boosted?
    Rui Pedro developed real fast pre-winter update DB too at least.

  48. Quote Originally Posted by zindrinho View Post
    "new" as in new for this thread, or new as in their PA has been boosted?
    Rui Pedro developed real fast pre-winter update DB too at least.
    I dont do PA/CA mate. "New" as its the first time Ive seen them ...
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  49. Never

    1. Make 3 subsitutions at once -

    SI will scream otherwise but Ive seen it too often to be a mere coincidence: usually 3 subs together especially before the 75th minute means one injury!

    2. Not use touchline instructions-

    Do so every 15/20 minutes depending on how match is going. Or when something serious happens - eg: if you concede a goal aggressively ask to show some passion.


    3. Let your assistant handle team talks -


    Team talks (including touchline shouts) are one of the most direct ways of affecting morale, which seems to be getting more important with every FM new version.

    4. Let your assman handle press conferences

    Ok - I usually break this "rule" due to boredom despite the fact that I understand the huge effect they have on morale. As I say elsewhere, always choose between 2nd and 4th option if unsure.

    5. Let your assman handle senior squad training

    Assistants are AI and not very good AI at that. The dont understand your tactics the way you understand them nor do they understand the needs of your squad.

    7. Start a player with condition lower than 89%

    Unless you have no choice. Rotate as per earlier posts.


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