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    Hey
    guys and welcome to my chairman game!

    Last year in FM16, I did a "FIFA World League" chairman game with a database I took from one of the SI forums. This year, I'm bringing this concept back and it'll be even better! (hopefully). I've made this database myself which means there might be some issues that come along throughout this chairman game but I made sure to test out the database multiple times and simulate multiple seasons to make sure that promotions and relegations work properly as well as continental football in the Champions League.


    Unlike normal chairman games where you have to post updates often, I decided to not be too strict about them. Firstly, I usually forget to write the chairman game updates and my own club updates and secondly, I know I'm one of many people who just love updates! So I'll be a bit more lenient about club updates especially considering that chairman games aren't exactly that popular at the moment anyway.

    RULES: (CURRENCY IS POUNDS)

    Now, here goes (most rules will be inspired by existing chairman games, such as SaintMotbot's Premier League chairman game
    and rishmanisation's chairman game):

    Managers

    1. A manager can be sacked at any point during the save, but will need to be paid a compensation fee. That is, paid the remainder of their contract with the club at the moment of sacking (imagine your manager has a year left on his contract, aka 52 weeks, and is paid 15 thousand pounds a week, you will need to pay a fee of 15 000 x 52 or 780 000 thousand pounds to let him go (A big thank to SaintMotbot for the explanation ) IMPORTANT: All manager movements must be run by me before being announced on the thread.

    2. As there many divisions full of teams that many of you probably support, you may take control of any promoted teams at the end of the season (3 per season). Keep in mind that if your team gets relegated, you will HAVE to do this to stay in the game.

    3.
    Just like you have to pay a compensation fee to sack a manager, you will have to do the same to sign one. The same concept applies where you have to pay their wages multiplied by the amount of weeks left on their contract.

    4. Any manager can be appointed since all the teams in the top division have a huge reputation.


    Finances


    1.
    Transfer budgets and wage budgets can be set to any amount to help your manager make signings but keep in mind that you will need to keep a positive balance at the end of the season.

    2. In case you're not sure, your selected team's balance will be posted when each transfer window opens and closes so keep an eye for that.

    3. Any team that has a balance of maximum -50 million pounds at the end of a season will be forced to make a key player a free agent for any other club to sign for every 5 million under that amount (that is if Chelsea
    are in 55 million pounds of debt, they would be forced to make Diego Costa or Eden Hazard a free agent and he would not be able to sign for the club again) so try to keep your team's balance as high as you can!

    Transfers/loans


    1. Transfers and loans are available to make with teams in the other divisions (More rules below).

    2.
    Chairmen will have to negotiate a price that BOTH find acceptable and will BOTH have to send me a private message to confirm the transfer.

    3. Transfers with clubs from lower divisions will be negotiated as such :

    - When your team has a transfer budget of over 50 million: pay 1.5 times the player's transfer value (for example if a player is worth 30 million, you'll have to pay 45 million to get him)

    - When your team has a transfer budget of 30-50 million: pay 1.25 times the player's transfer value

    - When your team has a transfer budget of under 30 million: pay the player's transfer value

    - For youth transfers, same rule applies except for all clubs, you must pay 3 times the player's transfer value if he's been selected for his national team and 2 times the player's value if he hasn't (youth players are players under 19 years old)

    - If a player has a release clause included in his contract, you may pay that amount for the transfer

    - If a player is unhappy or transfer listed and their club has set an asking price, you may also pay that price to get the player


    IMPORTANT:

    All chairman should send me their contract offers via PM for foreign transfers. Since the transfer fee depends on your transfer budget, your subject line will have to be your club plus your initial transfer budget and your message should include the player's name as well as your contract offer for him. At the end of the transfer window, I will look at all the contract offers and the transfers will be announced where the chairman who offered the highest wage gets the player.


    4. Loans can be negotiated between chairmen but no loan fee can be involved in the deal, it's up to them how much of the player's wages will be paid during that loan. Again, must be run by me before the announcement of the deal.

    5.
    For loans with lower division teams, the monthly fee needs to be of 100 000 pounds and 100% of the player's wages must be paid.

    6. Free transfers are available and just like with any loans and transfers need to be run by me before being confirmed.

    7. If you want to release a player, you may pay a contract compensation fee just like with the managers.

    8. To transfer-list players, just make a list and post it in the thread when you announce the club's takeover.

    9. One last thing about free transfers; contract offers need to be sent to me as a private message and if multiple clubs come in for the same player, I will move the player to the team who offered the highest wage. Moves for free players will only happen at the end of transfer windows to give a chance to other chairmen to offer that specific player a contract if they want to.

    10. Finally, transfers and loans between clubs in the first division (aka between chairmen) are unlimited but transfers and loans with teams not human-controlled are limited to 3 each, that is 3 transfers and 3 loans. Also, a maximum of two free transfers can be made in a season. In addition, youth transfers are also limited to 3 per transfer window.

    Facilities

    1. I'm not sure how the rules for those will look like yet, but it is likely that chairmen will have to pay a specific value for specific facilities to be upgraded/stadiums to be expanded.


    READ ALL THE RULES CAREFULLY PLEASE! (CONSIDER THAT THOSE RULES ARE JUST THE BASICS AND THEY MIGHT CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE CHAIRMAN GAME BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK)

    League structure:

    I created this database making sure that it would stay interesting. In my FIFA World League chairman game, the database included teams from all around the world and had a lot of different divisions. This year, I decided to create only 5 divisions. The top 3 divisions (UEFA Super League I, II and III) are normal structures, aka like the Premier League (20 teams, 3 teams relegated, 3 teams promoted in the case of lower divisions). The UEFA Super League IV has a total of 40 teams, divided into 4 different groups, with one team promoted from each group and 2 getting relegated. This is to make sure that teams in the lower divisions have a chance of climbing up the UEFA Super League ladder and have a chance of one day making it to the top. Finally, the UEFA Super League V is made up of 30 teams where each team plays each other once. At the end of those matches, the top 15 teams go into another league where they also play each other once and the top 8 teams get promoted to the UEFA Super League IV. I thought this would make the overall structure of the database interesting and would give teams more chances of getting promoted. On top of that, I've also added a UEFA Coppa where all teams from the top 3 divisions compete and the winner gets a spot in continental football. Finally, the UEFA Super Coppa is basically like the Community Shield and the winner of the Coppa plays against the winner of the first division.

    I hope this wasn't too hard to understand and that you all find the concept interesting enough! By the way, I've also given teams a lot of TV money as well as prize money in order to make sure that balances stay fair and even teams with less money can make transfers that are somewhat expensive. For example, Lyon will be able to make the same kind of transfers as Manchester City (that's what I'm hoping for at least).

    Below will be some screenshots of the first 3 divisions, let me know if you want to see what divisions 4 and 5 look like:

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    To sign up, just comment below with the team name and I'll update the table below accordingly:

    Team Chairman (click for PM)
    Arsenal lewie100
    AS Monaco
    Atletico Madrid Znik
    Bayern Tobey Mason
    Chelsea bcfc1
    Dortmund LIAMO1967
    FC Barcelona SaintMotbot
    FC Porto fireflysam
    Juventus NickHilderink
    Leverkusen YouthDev99
    Liverpool TheCelticKid
    Manchester City webby1999
    Manchester United Disclaimer89
    Napoli Bullardinho
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Paris Saint-Germain Linecoigne1998
    Real Madrid KillerRoo
    Roma
    Sevilla
    SL Benfica AldoKemp-1

    And please, please guys, remember, if you do sign up, don't just give up on it. Some people might want to join but wouldn't be able to because all spots are taken and I'll just kick out people who don't really post at all on here. Thanks, I hope you'll enjoy this chairman game and are as excited as me!
    Last edited by Linecoigne1998; 18/11/2016 at 04:18 PM.
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  2. R. Madrid pls
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  3. Count me in Barcelona please!
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  4. What's that you say?
    A Chairman game?

    I'm in. Arsenal pls (for the $$$)
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  5. Juventus please !
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  6. Bayern please
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  7. Thanks to those of you who have already joined! Can't wait to see more people take part so we can start this thing

  8. I'll take Man Utd, cheers.
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  9. Come on guys get joining so we can get this underway.
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  10. Just need 13 people left, some huge teams still up for grabs!

  11. can i have Liverpool please
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by TheCelticKid View Post
    can i have Liverpool please
    Of course thanks for joining!

  13. sign up and get this going lads
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  14. A couple of teams still available, come and join the Super League guys!

  15. Manchester City please
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Linecoigne1998 View Post
    A couple of teams still available, come and join the Super League guys!
    can i have dortmund
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  17. Can I have Chelsea if they are still available

  18. 9 spots left people, join quickly before all the big teams get taken!
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  19. Atletico Madrid please!
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Znik View Post
    Atletico Madrid please!
    Good to have you back

  21. Monaco, Leverkusen and Roma are just 3 of the 8 top teams left to choose from! Get involved guys

  22. People who have already joined, would you want me to just start this with some teams still available? Can't really be bothered to wait for so long to start it especially if there's not that much interest in it..
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  23. Fine with me mate
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Linecoigne1998 View Post
    People who have already joined, would you want me to just start this with some teams still available? Can't really be bothered to wait for so long to start it especially if there's not that much interest in it..
    Sounds like a good idea to me
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  25. I will take Napoli if I'm not too late?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Bullardinho View Post
    I will take Napoli if I'm not too late?
    It isn't, nice to have you on board
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Linecoigne1998 View Post
    People who have already joined, would you want me to just start this with some teams still available? Can't really be bothered to wait for so long to start it especially if there's not that much interest in it..
    Sure!

    It might not be realistic to fill every club spot this early on, so might as well get started imo.
    Last edited by Znik; 17/11/2016 at 06:52 AM.
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  28. Leverkusen

    Leverkusen please.

    Can I have that if you dont mind, I love German teams.
    Last edited by YouthDev99; 17/11/2016 at 07:42 AM.
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  29. FC Porto please
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  30. Building up nicely now

  31. Can't wait for this to start


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  32. Any more thoughts about starting this bad boy up? Maybe once people see how it works they will be more encouraged to join?
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  33. can I take Benfica mate ?

    i've got a rough idea of how this works, but will our managers be able to make signings aswell ? or is it just us ?
    Last edited by AldoKemp-1; 17/11/2016 at 10:26 PM.
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by AldoKemp-1 View Post
    can I take Benfica mate ?

    i've got a rough idea of how this works, but will our managers be able to make signings aswell ? or is it just us ?
    I don't control the managers' decisions so yes, they will be able to make transfers on their own.
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by SaintMotbot View Post
    Any more thoughts about starting this bad boy up? Maybe once people see how it works they will be more encouraged to join?
    I think I'm just gonna start it today yes!
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  36. TRANSFER WINDOW OPENS TODAY! It's currently 3:30pm BST on 18/11 so I'll keep it open until Sunday 9pm BST which gives you over 2 days to make the transfers you would like.

    For transfers messages that you will send me, please copy this template and fill it in with the appropriate stuff:

    Player name Club from Your club's transfer budget Wage offer
    Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid 50 000 000 400k/a week
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic ManU 8 000 000 350k/a week

    Just as a reminder for transfers with clubs from the lower leagues (2nd division and lower):


    Your club's transfer budget will decide the transfer fee (aka if your budget is 60 million pounds, you will have to pay 1.5 times the player's value, if your budget is between 25 and 50 million, you pay 1.25 times the value and under 25 million you pay the player's value).

    Highest wage offer wins the player.

    Maximum of 4 senior transfers with lower league clubs and 3 youth transfers; maximum of 3 loans with lower league clubs; unlimited transfers and loans for youth and senior players between chairmen

    Youth players are players who are between 16 and 21 years old. (another reminder: for youth players, transfer fee depends on their number of caps for their country; for example, Odegaard is 19 and has been selected for his country, which means you pay 3 times the player's value. If you take a youth player who has not been selected for their country, aka Jeff Reine-Adelaide, you pay 1.5 times the player's value.

    GAME SAVE
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  37. How do I participate exatcly, like add the game save, I am in the chairman mode though

  38. Quote Originally Posted by YouthDev99 View Post
    How do I participate exatcly, like add the game save, I am in the chairman mode though
    Just download the game save and add it to "Documents/Sports Interactive/Football Manager 2017/games"

  39. Really excited for this! just a quick questions.

    I notice the Champions League is still going in the game, surely that is going to be really screwed over because you have all the major teams in world football playing in a league system, with only the top two from the top division qualifying for the Champions League, who are they going to be playing in it? and will this give them a financial advantage with TV revenue and the like?

    Also can we get some starting balances up?

    Keep up the good work!

  40. Quote Originally Posted by SaintMotbot View Post
    Really excited for this! just a quick questions.

    I notice the Champions League is still going in the game, surely that is going to be really screwed over because you have all the major teams in world football playing in a league system, with only the top two from the top division qualifying for the Champions League, who are they going to be playing in it? and will this give them a financial advantage with TV revenue and the like?

    Also can we get some starting balances up?

    Keep up the good work!
    I'll put up a table of the balances asap, thanks for reminding me

    In terms of the Champions League, I wanted to keep it in because I was scared that if I made too many changes to the database it wouldn't really work very well. Basically most teams from the top leagues in Europe have been taken out of their respective leagues and put in the new Super League system, which means I replaced them with some lower league teams. For example, when I simulated a season, Hull won the Premier League which means the winner of the Super League (Arsenal that season) would play them and winners of the other competitions in the CL. I totally get what you mean with the TV revenue and such and last year during my World League this was also an issue so I think I'll simulate one or two seasons first and if it becomes a big problem, we can find a way to give teams a certain amount of money in order to balance out the books.

    Hopefully you understand where I'm coming from!
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  41. Quote Originally Posted by Linecoigne1998 View Post
    I'll put up a table of the balances asap, thanks for reminding me
    In terms of the Champions League, I wanted to keep it in because I was scared that if I made too many changes to the database it wouldn't really work very well. Basically most teams from the Premier League have been taken out of that league and put in the new Super League system, which means I replaced them in the Premier League with some lower league teams. For example, when I simulated a season, Hull won the Premier League which means the winner of the Super League (Arsenal that season) would play them and winners of the other competitions in the CL. I totally get what you mean with the TV revenue and such and last year during my World League this was also an issue so I think I'll simulate one or two seasons first and if it becomes a big problem, we can find a way to give teams a certain amount of money in order to balance out the books.
    Works for me I guess the only way to find out is to play and see!
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  42. Quote Originally Posted by Linecoigne1998 View Post
    winner of the Super League (Arsenal that season)
    Let's hope it says that way!
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  43. BALANCES

    Club Balance (transfer budget in brackets)
    Arsenal 305 million (39 million)
    AS Monaco 38 million (22 million)
    Atletico de Madrid 22 million (4 million)
    Bayern 263 million (34 million)
    Chelsea 48 million (39 million)
    Dortmund 158 million (16 million)
    FC Barcelona 64 million (10 million)
    FC Porto 13 million (12 million)
    Juventus 42 million (21 million)
    Leverkusen 41 million (3 million)
    Liverpool 135 million (40 million)
    Manchester City 78 million (49 million)
    Manchester United 249 million (31 million)
    Napoli 34 million (14 million)
    Olympique Lyonnais 4 million (3 million)
    Paris Saint-Germain 57 million (55 million)
    Real Madrid 64 million (17 million)
    Roma 24 million (9 million)
    Sevilla 24 million (3 million)
    SL Benfica 12 million (14 million)

  44. Leverkusen is already managed, what do I do?

    Sorry but I am a bit confused right now, can it be explained what do I have to do right now?

    Thanks

  45. Quote Originally Posted by YouthDev99 View Post
    Leverkusen is already managed, what do I do?

    Sorry but I am a bit confused right now, can it be explained what do I have to do right now?

    Thanks
    Just look through the database and look at players you'd want to buy. You don't actually do anything with the game save or simulate or anything like that. I'm the one doing that. When I post the game save, you can use it to look at players, look at how your team is doing and look at potential managers you'd want to bring in if you're not happy with your current one for example. So right now, all you're doing is looking at transfer targets and you can send me some offers if you want. Read through the rules again on the first page and the small summary of the transfer rules that I put on the post with the game save

  46. Are we using this thread for press confeences
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  47. Quote Originally Posted by LIAMO1967 View Post
    Are we using this thread for press confeences
    It'd be great if you did!

  48. Sounds great, let me get started. xD
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  49. Dortmund Have Been Taken Over!!!!!

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    New Chairman at Dortmund
    Dortmund have announced today the purchase of the club by Scottish Self-Made tycoon Liam Mosson. Mr Mosson who has been a life long fan of the club has said he wants to bring back the glory days to Dortmund. To do this however he must not only turn the opinions of the sceptical fans but he also must stick by his promises to invest into the club.

    Mosson said earlier in a press conference. "Dortmund is a massive club which demands respect, respect which has been lost since the good European
    run a few seasons back, the fans are great along with the setup for youth and development which is something i want to put emphasis on whilst i am here. I believe me and the fans combined can take Dortmund back to where they belong"

    Mosson also released a list of players he wouldn't be keeping at the club.
    • Kagawa - £20.5m
    • Gonzalo Castro - £13.5m
    • Burki - £8m
    • Adrian Ramos - £4m
    • Nuri Sahin -£4m
    Later today i will begin negotiations for signing, please pm me if interested in any of the players listed or not as i will negotiate. thanks for reading
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  50. What an enormous transfer budget! (£4M!)

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