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  1. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    Conspiracy Theories

    I'm a bit bored, and when i get bored i type in random stuff on the internet, and today i happened to type in conspiracy theories. The subject fascinates me, and my favourite one is probably the moon landing hoax. Personally, I think it was faked, and i have evidence to prove it. Explain the waving flag, the different shadows going off in different directions, explain why there are no stars in the pictures, explain why light shows the guy when he's getting out of the ship, even though there is a huge shadow over him. What are your opinions? Discuss.

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    I am no expert but I doubt it was faked. There is probably some rational explanation to all the theories.

  3. Well a few weeks ago there were loads of 9/11 conspiracies on but it was late lol i cant remember a thing but ive never really heard about this fake moon landing

  4. Why would they fake it.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-p..._Moon_landings
    I know its wikipedia but it seems well sourced.
    Last edited by Redders; 24/10/2009 at 08:46 PM.

  5. To be fair, out of all the threads, this one could be interesting. So either post on topic, or get out.

    I love conspiracies, and my favourites are: 9/11 & the assasination of JFK, both very interesting.

    The conspiracy shows about the moon landing are good, but most can be explained in counter shows.

  6. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    i've heard of the JFK conspiracy but i don't really know what it was about.

    19-11-08, if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything

  7. Should explain flag waving. fair enough redders.

    The flag placed on the surface by the astronauts flapped despite there being no wind on the Moon.<SUP class="noprint Template-Fact" title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from September 2009" style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">[citation needed]</SUP> Sibrel said "The wind was probably caused by intense air-conditioning used to cool the astronauts in their lightened, uncirculated space suits. The cooling systems in the backpacks would have been removed to lighten the load not designed for Earth’s six times heavier gravity, otherwise they might have fallen over".
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    • The astronauts were moving the flag into position. Without air drag, these movements caused the free corner of the flag to swing like a pendulum for some time. A horizontal rod, visible in many photographs, extended from the top of the flagpole to hold the flag out for proper display. The flag's rippled appearance was from folding during storage, and it could be mistaken for motion in a still photograph. The top support rod telescoped and the crew of Apollo 11 could not fully extend it. Later crews preferred to only partially extend the rod. Videotapes show that when the flag stops after the astronauts let it go, it remains motionless. At one point the flag remains completely motionless for well over thirty minutes. (See inertia.) See the photographs below.
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    Cropped photo of Buzz Aldrin saluting the flag (note the fingers of Aldrin's right hand can be seen behind his helmet).


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    Cropped photo taken a few seconds later, Buzz Aldrin's hand is down, head turned toward the camera, the flag is unchanged.


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    Animation of the two photos, showing that though Armstrong's camera moved between exposures, the flag is not waving.


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    <DL><DD>The flag is not waving, but is swinging as a pendulum after being touched by the astronauts. Here<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-117>[YouTube 3]</SUP> is a three-minute video from Apollo 15 showing that the flag does not move except when the astronauts move it. Here<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-118>[YouTube 4]</SUP> is a thirty-minute Apollo 11 video showing that the flag does not move. </DD></DL>

  8. Joe's Avatar Joe
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    i enjoy the london bombings plots, they are very interesting, i love on famliy guy when they made fun of the moon landing, i also really enjoyed learning about all the bhutto family being assasinated in pakistan

  9. i think the americans did fake the moon landing, it cant be no considice( spelling) that we havent been able to send anyone any further in the last 30-40 years, and at the time they where enaged in a space race with USSR( communist states, based in russia), they where also reported to be very far away from getting there about 2months before they apparetnly havent

  10. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    yeah i agree

  11. Really, what would they achieve from faking it. Plus there is tons of evidence they didn't and every reason conspiracy theorists can think of which could mean it is faked has been disproved, i'm pretty sure anyway.

  12. Joe's Avatar Joe
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    sorry to get off topic but i recommended some left backs for you on the find a player thread
    I also think that the french revolution is very interesting and Richard Nixon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19-11-08 View Post
    Really, what would they achieve from faking it. Plus there is tons of evidence they didn't and every reason conspiracy theorists can think of which could mean it is faked has been disproved, i'm pretty sure anyway.
    you dont give up do you lol

  13. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    here's a reason they faked it: the space race. You never know, they could have cheated to 'win' it. By faking it, people would think it's real and the russian's would have given up

  14. Quote Originally Posted by GaboneseTiger View Post
    sorry to get off topic but i recommended some left backs for you on the find a player thread
    I also think that the french revolution is very interesting and Richard Nixon

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    you dont give up do you lol
    well he did say discuss and i'm discussing. so what exactly am i doing wrong.
    Last edited by 19-11-08; 24/10/2009 at 09:04 PM.

  15. they where playing a game of, " one uping each other" at the time anderson, first one there looked good in the publics eye, tht all the cold war was, trying to "one-up each other" so there is plenty of reason to fake it

  16. Joe's Avatar Joe
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    nothing i believe the americans did fake it also, i say this because they were losing the space race, russia developed some probe thing, i watched frost/nixon about 2 weeks ago and it was one of the greatest films ive ever seen about the nixon conspiracy

  17. So their is one reason but what proof makes you so sure they faked and didn't just actually land on the moon.

  18. The fact is if they had gone out of the protective atmosphere of the earth on the dates they supposed they did, they would of been fried by the radioactive solar flares that were reported at that time. To get past this radiation the rocket would have had to have been made from over 6 foot thick lead walls this would have made it far to heavy to lift off let alone break the earths gravitational pull.

  19. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by 19-11-08 View Post
    So their is one reason but what proof makes you so sure they faked and didn't just actually land on the moon.
    no stars???

  20. Quote Originally Posted by 19-11-08 View Post
    So their is one reason but what proof makes you so sure they faked and didn't just actually land on the moon.
    what reason are there they did land there, apart from a load of "workings" by amercican scienctist and mathsmatician who arent going to admit america didnt land there

  21. Joe's Avatar Joe
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    what you said ha ha, i live in america, new york, (im not a yank) americans compete for everything, british people are more laid back but its full on here, they dont lose wars ever really, and i think it would have been an embarassning loss for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis Edwards View Post
    no stars???
    stars are massive mate and i have to agree with you, its quite amazing though all the effort they went to if they did fake it,

  22. My home page is abovetopsecret, love conspiracy theories.

  23. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    as u said tho gabonesetiger, they always go ott and they'd do anything to win

  24. Joe's Avatar Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis Edwards View Post
    as u said tho gabonesetiger, they always go ott and they'd do anything to win
    yeah we were playing football (soccer) in P.E about 2 years ago, and the P.E teachers put their classes against eachother, and we were down 3-1 and my teacher was sweating his pants off he was shouting at us to win, theres no doubt they dont like losing, they are the most powerful nation in the world because they compete, also enjoy learning about the abraham lincoln conspiracy

  25. Quote Originally Posted by sprattley View Post
    The fact is if they had gone out of the protective atmosphere of the earth on the dates they supposed they did, they would of been fried by the radioactive solar flares that were reported at that time. To get past this radiation the rocket would have had to have been made from over 6 foot thick lead walls this would have made it far to heavy to lift off let alone break the earths gravitational pull.
    The trajectory of the flight was picked so their exposure to the solar flares you mention was minimal and moved through it in four hours and according to the information i found says they were proteced by the aluminium hull. Also thirty three of the thirty four astonauts who have made the trip have developed cataracts due to the radiation you mention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis Edwards View Post
    no stars???
    The sun was shining and there cameras were set for sunliht exposure and could not detect the faint points of light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott=FM GOD View Post
    what reason are there they did land there, apart from a load of "workings" by amercican scienctist and mathsmatician who arent going to admit america didnt land there
    i posted a link earlier which has quite a lot of evidence on.

    Seriously any reason you come up with i'm pretty sure any reason you can find with minimal effort i can find a more rational explenation than they faked it somewhere on the internet.
    Last edited by 19-11-08; 24/10/2009 at 09:29 PM.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Redders View Post
    I love conspiracies, and my favourites are: 9/11 & the assasination of JFK, both very interesting.
    The jfk one is very interesting but at the moment im reading about illuminati thats weird and really does confuse me

  27. you did post a link earlier anderson, but it is wikipedia, come on not the best, the evidence was probaly submitted but amercian scientist, i know what your saying, but i think it if the amercians where so developed why has it taken so long, before we even start thinkg about sending someone further, we cant even get a robot tht far yet, so how is it they where so far ahead of us at tht point,

  28. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bret View Post
    The jfk one is very interesting but at the moment im reading about illuminati thats weird and really does confuse me
    isn't the illuminati something about obama or i know he's related to it

  29. If the moon landing was faked why would they keep going back there? It doesnt make sense.

  30. They've sent unmanned probes to mars which depending where it is in its orbit can be 500 times further away than the moon whic causes problems for the astronauts which would have to be overcome before we go any further:
    The degeneration zero gravity would cause to the bones, muscles and heart.
    The amount of radiation exposure which would become a problem where it wasn;t with the moon due to it being a longer tip.
    Apart from many of the mechanical and physical probelems they would have to overcome the phychological problems caused by being confined in a relatively small space with 5-6 other people for 2-3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis Edwards View Post
    isn't the illuminati something about obama or i know he's related to it
    supposed to be something to do with a bunch of really rich people in some special group who control the world bush is supposed to be part of it. I doubt obama would fit into the theory as unless i am mistaken he is relatively poor compared to the people suppose to be in it.

  31. i remeber watching a tv show at 3 in the moring once and it was about a ufo veiwing in enlgand and it has to be said that something wierd happen there, the reason i beleive something happened was because there were a number of amry personal who all said they saw something its been dubbed the british roswell
    http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc658.htm

  32. intriguing. reading it now.

  33. Thats really interesting mate

  34. the bit where it talks about the "domed heads" is rubbish the guy that said he saw that was very strange and at the end of the programme the army guys hated him becuase they believe he made that up to become famous personally i dont believe that bit of it

  35. Joe's Avatar Joe
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    wow that actually captured my imagination very interesting

  36. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    is there a way i can edit the title, because i want to make this thread more broad, like any conpiracy theories or beliefs such as JFK, 9/11, ghosts, UFO's etc???

  37. Or spell conspiracy right on the title?

  38. was reading further about it and apparently people think they saw a lighthouse.-_-
    If that is true i have lost all faith in the army.

  39. nah it couldnt have been the lighthouse because if i remeber correctly it was very far away and it dosnt explain the blue and red lights that where seen, why the animals all went crazy, and the increase radiation they found in some places

    i would love to know what really happened

  40. Quote Originally Posted by hamptonmanger View Post
    nah it couldnt have been the lighthouse because if i remeber correctly it was very far away and it dosnt explain the blue and red lights that where seen, why the animals all went crazy, and the increase radiation they found in some places

    i would love to know what really happened
    apparently that was made up as they were near an arable farmhouse that had no animals. and about the background radiation experts at the UK’s National Radiological Protection Board said that the equipment they used was intended for measuring large amounts of radiation not background radiation so their readings were meaningless. haven't read anything about the the lights.

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    I think the JFK assasination theory is the one i believ in the most but i just find it hard to believe that people would be able to hide the truth from people so effectively.

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    not sure if any of you read about the wind turbine incident in Louth (Linolnshire) in Jan 09. they said it was ice or a mechanical failure that broke the turbine blades but loads of people saw some 'weird lights' in the sky and one of the blades actually disappeared.

    any thoughts??

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  42. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    oh yeah i heard about that, it could have been part of a tree trnk or something flying off and hitting it??

  43. Remember hearing about both these. The wind turbine to me seemed strange because one of the rota blades actually broke off and disapeared with no aircrafts reported missing or damaged around tht time.

    I love conspiricies.

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    i can understand the ice explaination or mechanical failure but just a bit suspect if ya ask me

  45. i enjoy reading about conspiracys but i dont believe in any of the major ones like moon landing/9-11, just think people pick at little things and make it into a story.

  46. There was one I liked. In 1900 on a small isand in the north of Scotland there was a lighthouse on the island and 3 lighthous men there to opperate it. But overnight all 3 of them disapeared without a trace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeumoconnor69 View Post
    i enjoy reading about conspiracys but i dont believe in any of the major ones like moon landing/9-11, just think people pick at little things and make it into a story.
    same here really but the 9/11 thing bakes my head sometimes. i believe the towers part. that was a terrible tragedy that makes my skin crawl everytime i see it but the pentagon part doesn't make sense to me. too much to mention but there's loads of programs and vids knocking about if you wanna read em and are not sure what i'm on about

  48. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Div_Muzza View Post
    There was one I liked. In 1900 on a small isand in the north of Scotland there was a lighthouse on the island and 3 lighthous men there to opperate it. But overnight all 3 of them disapeared without a trace.
    yeah we had to do somethin about that ouple weeks ago in school


  49. Lewis's Avatar LewisPremium Member
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    i reckon they drowned in the sea, like they went to get some fish for the next day or something, the boat capsized and they drowned

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