Harris' Unstoppable 4-2-2-2 Home & 4-1-1-3-1 Away tactics!! :)

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For those of you that have followed my still reasonably new thread
" http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...2-formation-just-unstoppable-watch-space.html "

Thank you for your kind words on how well my tactic has worked for yourselves.
I thought it would be easier to just start up a new thread so everything is easier to find.


- Okay, so, ive tweaked my tactic again and cannot believe myself that its even stronger again ... loving it :) :)
Updated Sun 19th Jan 2014 @ 08:33 - Look for version 1.4



New Updated Version 1.4
http://www.mediafire.com/download/rag6ku65wiva3at/Harris'%20Home%204-2-2-2%20Standard%20direct.tac
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Good news is, with this version, i no longer use an Away copy.
All i do is change the mentality to counter if im away now.
Be prepared to keep switching back and forth to standard though depending on how your game is playing out :)





HOME TACTIC
Harris' Home 4-2-2-2 Standard

AWAY TACTIC
Harris' Away 4-1-1-3-1 Counter

SHUT UP SHOP TACTIC

Harris' Shut Up Shop 4-1-1-3-1


After spending all of last week playing FM2014 religioiusly after work for long hours into the night. I was getting increasingly frustrated that i couldnt suss the game out and my tactics wernt working.
I spent ALOT of time scouring this site looking for different tactics, tips, advice and so forth, with still no luck.
Then all of a sudden on a late Saturday night, it just clicked into place.
My new formation and everything is just spot on now i think.

I won the Premiership with Man Utd with this tactic but ive LITERALLY just loaded up a new career with JUST the English teams for database so i can upload screenshots to show how this tactic works and if it works with other teams too.

My first team will be back with Man Utd.....Hope you enjoy following this thread, and if you decide to try this formation out, please upload screenshots to show how youve got on.

If youre a die hard FM player then no doubt youre ALOT better than me haha. So if you have advice please also feel free to post :)

Thanks Guys

Harris4Ips



I would describe my tactics as, plenty of goals and possession.
Aslong as you change the mentality at the correct games and times, defensive records should be good aswell!




For those of you who perhaps cannot or do not know how to download these tactics, not to worry.
Here they are :-



HOME TACTICS

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PLAYER INSTRUCTIONS :-

Goalkeeper ( D ) - Pass it shorter, Distribute to defence

Full Backs ( Auto )- Pass it shorter, close down more, ease off tackles

Centre backs ( D )- Pass it shorter, close down more, ease off tackles

Deep Lying Playmaker ( D ) and Box to Box ( S ) - Pass it shorter, close down more & shoot more, ease off tackles

Advanced Playmaker ( S ) - Pass it shorter, shoot more, ease off tackles

Winger ( S ) - Pass it shorter, shoot more, play wider, cross centre, ease off tackles

Inside Forward ( S )- Pass it shorter, shoot more, play wider, cross centre, ease off tackles

Advanced Forward ( Att )- Pass it shorter, shoot more, ease off tackles



- Home tactics should be deployed in all home matches when youre a top team like Man Utd.
Perhaps if youre a lower division side coming up against a higher division side, using the away tactic may benefit you to counter the stronger teams better attacking play.


- After going 2-0 in the lead, if the opponents have taken a more attacking approach to get back in the game, i then tend to switch mentality to counter so im more defensive but ready to pounce.



AWAY TACTICS
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PLAYER INSTRUCTIONS :-

Goalkeeper ( D ) - Pass it shorter, Distribute to defence

Full Backs ( Auto )- Pass it shorter, close down more, ease off tackles

Centre backs ( D )- Pass it shorter, close down more, ease off tackles

Deep Lying Playmaker ( D ) and Box to Box ( S ) - Pass it shorter, close down more & shoot more, ease off tackles

Advanced Playmaker ( S ) - Pass it shorter, shoot more, ease off tackles

Winger ( S ) - Pass it shorter, shoot more, play wider, cross centre, ease off tackles

Inside Forward ( S )- Pass it shorter, shoot more, play wider, cross centre, ease off tackles

Advanced Forward ( Att )- Pass it shorter, shoot more, ease off tackles


- Away tactics again, should be deployed in all away games. If youre perhaps up against a side who is of alot less quality than you, maybe sticking to the home tactic should be suitable so you can take advantage of a weaker defence.



SHUT UP SHOP TACTICS
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Player Instructions :-

Goalkeeper - Take long kicks, more direct passes

Full Backs - close down more, more direct passes, hold position, shoot less often, dribble less often, mark tighter, sit narrower

Centre Backs - Close Down more, More direct passes, mark tighter

Deep Lying Playmaker - Close down more, more direct passes, mark tighter

Box to Box - Close down more, shoot less, dribble less, more direct passes, mark tighter

Winger & Inside forward - cross aim centre, stay wider, mark tighter, more direct passes, hold position, hold up ball, shoot more

Advanced Playmaker - Hold up ball, shoot more, more direct passes, mark tighter, close down more

Advanced Forward - Shoot more, mark tighter, hold position, more direct passes, hold up ball



- This tactic i rarely use to be honest. But having it trained can come in handy. If youre desperately clinging onto a lead or clean sheet with the last 5-10 minutes remaining. This tactic will pretty much guarantee to see you through.
Be aware though, as the computer will advise you, deploying this tactic TOO EARLY could be costly.



Training :-

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For the whole of pre season i will use this for the team training to get the tactic fluidly trained as quickly as possible.
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As soon as the season is about to start i will then switch team training to this.
Ticking the 'allow rest after match' obviously allows the players that needed rest after the game.
I will tend to leave this now how it is until all 3 tactics are fully FLUID.
Soon as they are fully fluid i will then drop the intensity to average and leave it for the rest of the season.
Just be aware, come next season, you may need to start again with this training :)
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Player Training :-
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For player training i am literally just training each players individual role according to where i want them to play in my team.
The more training they get the better their rating will be for the position and role in the 'players report'.

I try to make sure the players attributes fit that position also. But maybe one or two stats being lower shouldnt be of too much concern.


STAFF :-
Just from all of my research i found a wicked download file off
How to find Best Coaches in Football Manager | Passion for Football Manager

Signing the best staff with the right attributes will increase your training rating to as high as 5 star.
Having 5 star ratings across your training will mean your players will get better and reach their full potential quicker.

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I also make sure i have the best assistant manager possible.
I always leave him the roles of, team talks, opposition intructions and on the odd occasion when im feeling lazy il let him do my press too ha


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Friendlies i always cancel all friendlies which have been automatically assigned.

Then starting from day 2, il pick 4 very small teams, 4 smaller teams and 2 similar teams. All with a break of 2 days rest between each one. But making sure my last friendly is one week before my first competitive game.

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Then il set up my two sides into a 1st team and a 2nd team and save these selections.

Then with the first friendly il pick my first team and alternate each week between the two sides.

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Although ive only won the Premiership with Man Utd and an Unexpected Promotion with Ipswich Town, the results are just superb. So long as youre good at preparing for games in terms of mentality to use (before and during the matches) and rotating the squad where necessary.
Not only do you score a hatfull of goals and keep possession. You also have a solid defence!

A few people have already downloaded this tactic and gave very positive feedback. Hopefully once my new thread becomes more popular, they can provide their screenshots of their own successes and maybe even better tweaked versions of this tactic.

I shall now place loads of screenshots of matches, final league tables and player stats so you can see the results ive had thus far.


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Somewhere in there are the results of my Champions League Semi Final ..... :( this makes me extremely sad as i had so many injuries!

Just so you dont think im trying to fob you off and making excuses .... here we go ...

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No De Gea, Rafael, Carrick, RVP, Rooney...even hernandez decided to be a wimp and hobble off. Only for Will Keane to make his debut...BRILLIANT!


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But still RVP AND ROONEY-less, i was never going to get the goals!

So hard to accept that... :(


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THANKS AGAIN FOR READING :)
HOPEFULLY THIS TIME I HAVE PUT ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY SO I DONT HAVE TO EDIT THIS POST AND MESS IT UP HAHA :)



Harris4Ips
 
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Slight change to my set pieces.

Ive been watching the replays to goals the last few games and noticed a few goals conceded on corners through unmarked players.

So heres the new Defending Set Piece Instructions


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Hello mate, just started a game with United using your Tacs - in your previous United game, how did you line up? Who did you play in that Inside Forward role?


I'm nine friendlies in at the minute including the Charity Shield. So far won 6 lost 3. The Charity Shield was a horror of a 0-0 which we won on pens...

Tacs aren't at fluid yet so I will be patient...
 
Hello mate, just started a game with United using your Tacs - in your previous United game, how did you line up? Who did you play in that Inside Forward role?


I'm nine friendlies in at the minute including the Charity Shield. So far won 6 lost 3. The Charity Shield was a horror of a 0-0 which we won on pens...

Tacs aren't at fluid yet so I will be patient...

I tend to choose lose of really really weak teams to begin with whilst my team gets match fit and fluid in the tactic.
Then by the time i come to the big friendlies against Boca and Barcelona, im raring to go.

That Basel friendly i couldnt cancel. I played my 2nd team, and usually i would beat sides like this. But because they wernt match fit or the tactic wasnt trained enough in time, i ended up losing. Urgh

Aslong as youve followed all the training tips ive included you shouldnt really have any problems depending on who youve selected for friendlies i guess?

But those 2 teams i set up and save the selections. I then alternate those two sides each friendly.

As soon as a player hits 70% i take him off for the sub in his position. Otherwise i leave them on aslong as i can so they get fit quicker.
Hope this helps?
 
I usually sign Verratti for the Deep lying playmaker role so he can take over Carrick when he retires.
Ward-Prowse for the box to box, but he is quite versatile and can play on the wing, att mid or inside forward.
And Mitrovic from Anderlecht. Hes an absolute beast at 18 and will replace RVP nicely, i buy him and prowse and loan them back immediately so they get game time.


Left back, i normally sign Luke Shaw, but i might try sign a more experienced one to replace Evra and get a regen as back up next season
 
so far, I'm impressed with your work and it looks interesting. I'll start a save and see how it goes. great work!!!
 
Won 6-1 as Leicester in a friendly against Real Madrid with this tactic. Great job
 
so far, I'm impressed with your work and it looks interesting. I'll start a save and see how it goes. great work!!!

Thanks, definitely come back and show screenshots of how you do :)

If you find any improvements for the tactic please feel free to let me know
 
going well so far...with plenty of clean sheets(very impressive) and lots of goals, until Van Persie got injured for 8 months. But i must say, GREAT WORK!!!
 
going well so far...with plenty of clean sheets(very impressive) and lots of goals, until Van Persie got injured for 8 months. But i must say, GREAT WORK!!!

8 months!? Tragic man ... Hernandez is pretty reliable though :)
 
I've just got to say, the presentation of this tactic is fantastic! I wish all the posts in this section were as detailed and informative as yours!
 
I've just got to say, the presentation of this tactic is fantastic! I wish all the posts in this section were as detailed and informative as yours!

Thank you :)

Hopefully it works aswell as it is presented ha :)
 
Just when i thought i couldnt tweak this tactic any better, i do it dont i :)

Ive altered from short passing and retain to more direct and play wider to sit narrower.

Although this would appear as though im losing the possession game, im not ... plus im scoring more goals... WOW

Tactic will be uploaded on PAGE 1, POST 1
 
i'm really surprised with this tactics. I HAVE NOT CONCEDED A SINGLE GOAL ALL SEASON and it's already NOVEMBER. i just changed the "STANDARD" to "CONTROL" and that was it (H)
 
it may not be "POSSESSION-OBSESSED" but it's worth it

Yeah it doesnt ALWAYS dominate possession. But its attack attack attack, have you downloaded the latest version yet??
Just recently improved my tactic considerably :)
 
im currently using tactis for liverpool, not sure if im doing somthing wrong? going thru a bad patch at the moment, not losing my team talks tho getting pretty much all green and confidance up, seem to be lossing vs the big teams away then ill lose the next game i should win at home or draw which then drops the moral, do you change counter to attack when behind? change standard to attack when at home if behind? also getting loads of shots but hardly any on target could i change somthing there mayb?
 
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