RebJii

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Hello,

I've had a mixed start to the season, pre-season was up and down low point being losing 4 - 0 to the U21's! and high of winning 8 - 0 against FC Twente. Season also started mixed with up and down results.

Control - Fluid

the tactic is a 4-3-3 DM
Full backs - support
CD - Defend
Def mid - Def
AP - S
BBM - S
Winger - S
IF - A/S
CF/TM

Instructions:
Retain possession
Short passing
Pass into space
Work ball out of defense
Hit early crosses
Whipped crosses
Push higher up
Close down more
Stay on feet
Prevent GK distribution
Lower Tempo

Are these too many for the style i'm trying to play ? (Possession based football)


Firstly my strikers Pelle and Dybala are not doing anything relevant other than losing the ball or playing a miniscule part during attacks, I've tried Pelle as a Target man and Dybala as a Complete forward, both to no-avail. I want tactical flexibility as in Home games and games where I am considered favorite to win, I would most likely be playing Dybala as a Complete forward or something else you guys can recommend, and in tough away fixtures to play Pelle as the sole Target man striker. Should both have different roles or should I wait it out for a bit longer to see if they pick it up ?

Also I was wondering whether it is better to have a AP or a RPM in Midfield, the two midfielders vying for that spot are Ward-Prowse and Nemanja Gudelj. Lastly for the Def mid spot I have Wanyama and Lucas Romero, I was wondering is it better to have a Regista (Romero) Def Mid (Wanyama).

I was wondering if anyone can provide help with a Two striker formation to accommodate both Dybala and Pelle. Atm I have produced but not used a 4-2-2-2.
FB's- S
CD - D
BWM - D
BBM - S
W - S
IF - S
CF - A
TM - S

Any advice on roles, positioning or a new formation to accommodate them both would be greatly appreciated

Any help on the above would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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A few points ;)

If you're gonna use a high line it's probably not good to play out of defence. Move the ball quickly into the higher areas, use support and then let the defence push up.

A high defence needs quick CBs to cover back. So you should have at least one CB with speed acceleration above pace, but both would be good) and both should have high anticipation as they both need to cut out long balls.

Regista doesn't suit your formation as he will push forward a lot. Wanyama makes a good half back (which means you can drop Push Higher as the CBs will naturally push up to join a HB) or you can play Romero as a DLP/defend.

Take off Hit Early Crosses but tell your FBs to do it instead. Much more effective.

Take off Stay on Feet and map it to each player instead. Stay on Feet sounds like you are telling your players to not make aggressive tackles. What it means is that you are telling players to not make 'Hollywood' tackles, like you can tell a playmaker to make more risky passes. It's fine to let a forward go sliding into tackles because then you get a chance to knock the ball loose high up the pitch. What you don't want is your defenders sliding around on their butts trying to do something awesome. Watch any real match and you'll only ever see decent CBs make slide tackles as a last resort. Watch Wayne Rooney (for example) and he will go off his feet to win the ball a lot, knowing that if he misses then it's no biggie.

Close Down More is fine, but watch how you use it with individual players. You don't want your CBs on Close Down More TI AND Close Down More PI - they will close dowm more anyway....it's their job!

Lastly, if you are trying to play a full possession tactic, I wouldn't play Fluid. You'd be better off with players sticking to their positions so you can maintain a good passing structure.
 
Thanks for the detailed reply :), will try out the tweaks you suggested. Any chance you know the best combination for Pelle and Dybala in a 4-2-4 Wide, been tweaking with an AF and CF, TM And CF just want to know any of your guys take on it

Thanks
 
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