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I've tweaked this tactic. DOWNLOAD HERE https://www.mediafire.com/?gd270649d8t2b39
For more info see post #24 on page 3. Thanks. Any inputs still welcome.




OKAY, so I uploaded a Libero tactic the other day that was pretty decent, but now I've come up with a way better one, thrashing opponents, but I dont know how to delete the old thread. Anyway here goes.

You will have lots of possesion and goals from through balls in the middle of the pitch. I will guide you through the differents positions and roles.

GK - Sweeper keeper support Needs to have good aerial reach, command the area and be great on one on ones as we play with a high defensive line

SW - Libero attack. Most likely you wont have a good libero in your squad to begin with. What i do is to retrain a player with good vision, pace, passing, dribble, heading and positioning. It can either be a defender, midfielder or one of your ball playing offensive wingbacks, who you wont need for this tactic anyway. Have him work on PPMs like gets forward whenever possible, runs with ball through the middle, tries killerballs often.

CF(L) - Ball playing defender defend. This player needs to have good tackling, and pace as well as he will confront lots of pacey wingers. Have the player with highest dribble rating of your left footed defenders play here. PPMs could be tries to play way out of trouble.

CF(C) - Ball playing defender stopper. Your middle defender needs to be good in the air. PPMs could be mark tighter(or whatever its named in english).

CF(R) - Ball playing defender defend. This player also needs good tackling and pace as well as positioning, but he wont need to be able to dribble. PPMs could be tries to play way out of trouble.

CM(L) - Central midfield attack. Have your playmaking type of player play in this position. PPMs Tries killerballs often. Arrives late in the area.

CM(C) - Central midfield attack - Have your more matchspoiler type of player play here. PPMs can be very different here but I would go for at least places shots, and maybe likes one-twos.

CM(R) - Central midfield attack - Have the fastest of your central midfielders play here. He needs good of the ball and finishing. PPMs Runs into channels. Likes one-twos. Likes to round keeper(dont know whats its called in english)

OFFMID(L) - Shadowstriker - Here you will play your flashy dribbler with lots of flair. You can find use here for one of your wingers that you dont need for this tactic. Off the ball movement and finishing will make him lethal. PPMs Runs into channels. Places shots. Dribbles through the middle or left flank.

OFFMID(C) - Enganche. This player is almost like a targetman, but he needs good vision, finishing and overall class. PPMs could be tries killerballs often. Gets forward whenever possible.

OFFMID(R) - Offensive midfield attack. He acts a bit like a right wing but without all the dribbling. I have found that a retrained targetman kind of player works fine in this role. But I dont know which type of player is ideal in this role. The player i'm using right now with great succes is a targetman that I have retrained. His PPMs are shoots with power, plays with back to goal, and knocks ball past opponent.

I know you will have a lot of players in your squad who wont be naturally fitted for this tactic. Dont lose hope. Retrain them for new positions. Offensive wingback types work well as central midfielders, libero and can even work as a shadowstriker/offensive midfielder.
Your strikers can be played as either of the front three depending on what type of player he is. Wide players like wingers/inside forwards are great in the shadowstriker and even enganche role.

TWEAKS ARE AS ALWAYS WELCOME.

OPP INSTRUCTIONS. I just leave them to *** manager, but maybe tactic can be improved further here.

TRAINING. I rotate between balanced, ball control and offensive. And between def.pos, off movements and team cohesion. I train tactic until fully fluid.

DOWNLOAD HERE: https://www.mediafire.com/?1ob9in72ul3aboi

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Certainly looks interesting.

Have you got any league tables, end of season screenshots, fixtures etc?
 
Certainly looks interesting.

Have you got any league tables, end of season screenshots, fixtures etc?

Thanx! No not yet as I have been tweaking and twerking with the tactic ;) But I just beat the top three teams in Denmark, FC Copenhagen, Brøndby IF and FC Midtjylland both home and away eventhough I'm an underdog team and I try to develop young players. But will post some later on.
 
any libero players you would recommend by any chance?
 
any libero players you would recommend by any chance?

Bonucci will do a great job, but it depends on which level your playing? I've had great succes with using Kovacic from Madrid as a libero in FM16. As long as your player isnt complety useless in defending and that you learn him gets forward whenever possible, then I think it'll be fine.
 
View attachment 116849 Just beat OB 6-2 which is a team of even strength and I rested my four best players. Bassogog who scored the hattrick played in the shadowstriker role though he cant play any offensive midfield roles, and has only 8 in finishing, but he's fast and can dribble and thats kind of all you need for that position in this tactic.
 
View attachment 116847 And another big win. Have alot of players out due to injury, yet managed to win 6-2 against FC Copenhagen which is the equivalent of Barcelona and Real Madrid in the Danish league.
 
Certainly going to give this a go. Have been thinking about an Italian save so might try it there.

I think Napoli or Lazio are a team this might work with.
 
Certainly going to give this a go. Have been thinking about an Italian save so might try it there.

I think Napoli or Lazio are a team this might work with.

Sounds interesting. Let me know how it works out!
 
only a very quick test with my Toronto guinea pig save but really liked what I saw. Front three were everywhere at both ends of killer balls; MCL shone as main playmaker; Libero was quietly but consistently involved in most plays. Liked not only quantity but also quality of chances created. Very interesting tactic for sure, always like strikerless & wingerless :)

Used a fast striker with 'beat offdise trap' at AMCR and looked particularly effective in this game, together with more playmaking forwards at AMC and AMCL.

I think I 'got' most roles but can you elaborate further on attributes and type of players required for the three central midfield roles? Do they need some defensive skills as well (tackling, positioning etc) or more attacking midfielders/playmakers are a better fit?

thanks!
 
only a very quick test with my Toronto guinea pig save but really liked what I saw. Front three were everywhere at both ends of killer balls; MCL shone as main playmaker; Libero was quietly but consistently involved in most plays. Liked not only quantity but also quality of chances created. Very interesting tactic for sure, always like strikerless & wingerless :)

Used a fast striker with 'beat offdise trap' at AMCR and looked particularly effective in this game, together with more playmaking forwards at AMC and AMCL.

I think I 'got' most roles but can you elaborate further on attributes and type of players required for the three central midfield roles? Do they need some defensive skills as well (tackling, positioning etc) or more attacking midfielders/playmakers are a better fit?

thanks!

Thanx for the input. Well i like to have a CM(center) who can tackle as well as has high work rate, but still be a ball player. A box to box kind of player. The three CMs have to win the ball back, so if they cant tackle it can be a problem, yet they have to set the play. When holding onto a close lead against a big club i tend to put the CM(center) on defend.
 
Thanx for the input. Well i like to have a CM(center) who can tackle as well as has high work rate, but still be a ball player. A box to box kind of player. The three CMs have to win the ball back, so if they cant tackle it can be a problem, yet they have to set the play. When holding onto a close lead against a big club i tend to put the CM(center) on defend.

With the right players and right PPM's this should be fun to watch. I like how the Libero gives balance to the DM area even on attack duty. I've added 'shoot less often' PI for all midfielders/attackers to encourage passing plus 'low crosses' to favor my short, quick AMC's. When holding a 2 goals lead I also switch to 'counter' mentality which has been deadly at times.

Impressed with the quality of chances created, this tactic will be very interesting for those who value style of play and not just 'results'!
 
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With the right players and right PPM's this should be fun to watch. I like how the Libero gives balance to the DM area even on attack duty. I've added 'shoot less often' PI for all midfielders/attackers to encourage passing plus 'low crosses' to favor my short, quick AMC's. When holding a 2 goals lead I also switch to 'counter' mentality which has been deadly at times.

Impressed with the quality of chances created, this tactic will be very interesting for those who value style of play and not just 'results'!


Cool. Will try shoot less often and see how it works.
 
The tactic looks really interesting, gonna try it out with Stoke and Liverpool.

How would you recommend setting up each XI?

Shaqiri Bojan Bony
Adam Allen Imbula
Pieters Shawcross Cameron
Muniesa
Butland

Firmino Coutinho Sturridge
Can Henderson Wijnaldum
Sakho Matip Lovren
?
Mignolet
 
The tactic looks really interesting, gonna try it out with Stoke and Liverpool.

How would you recommend setting up each XI?

Shaqiri Bojan Bony
Adam Allen Imbula
Pieters Shawcross Cameron
Muniesa
Butland

Firmino Coutinho Sturridge
Can Henderson Wijnaldum
Sakho Matip Lovren
?
Mignolet

sorry, but im not reall
into premier league football, so I dont know the players too well, so I guess your guess will be better than mine really. Let me know how it works out.
 
That LFC lineup looks well suited. Wonder if Clyne would retrain as a Libero?

I am trying with Lazio, quite a lot of retraining to do so will see how it goes.
 
Maybe retrain Matip as a libero and put Klavan where Matip was. I don't remember the stats of the players, tho, maybe I'm wrong
 
Couple of inputs. If you have your Shadowstriker train PPMs like runs with ball down left flank then he will act more as a Pseudowinger. Same goes for the AMC to the right. PPM runs with ball down right flank. That gives the tactic a little more dynamic output. Another tweak can be to change the AMC-R to a shadowstriker as well, just remember to have someone who can dribble otherwise he will loose possesion too often.
Last thing. When choosing a Libero remember he must be able to dribble, its very important. And the PPMs are very important too, otherwise he wont act as a regista kind of player in attack.
 
looks interesting. hard to see how you dont just get destroyed down both flanks though. maybe some oi's?
 
I tried this for a bit, and elements of it did create some good play and action. I did find that my flanks were badly exposed however, and conceded quite a few goals in that regard. I used Leeds United with it as we are currently blessed with quite a few good central players and attacking mids.
 
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