Vocal 5212_Huddersfield(expected 20th)_Ranked the 1st in EPL_Scored 60 in 21 games

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Hi guys.
This time I made 5212, which has 2 strikers and 1 inside forward, for those who are sick of using 3 strikers.
Tactic:V1:View attachment 48835, View attachment 48606 (left foot for side striker and IFs)



My motto is making the tactics that the weakest team can use to beam every one including big clubs.
So, this time I have also tested it with Huddersfield, which is expected the last one in EPL.

Vocal 523 V4 has focused on retaining more possession than previous tactics. For that, mid striker's role is Deeplying forword to go down and get the ball, and then pass to side strikers who is trying line braking. Also mid fielders try to go in the box to score.
However, this Vocal 5212 V1 is similar than V2. 2 strikers try line braking, and 1 inside forward tries to cut inside between opposite defenders.


The important information and tips for this Vocal 5212 V1 is very similar with the one of Vocal 523 so that you could use any type of players.

You guys should have as many friendly match as possible before the season starts so that the tactic familiarity of your team and players could be full as soon as possible.
It is very important.
You also would check the important information in red in this main thread below to improve your performance.
For 5212 V1, it would be much better to remove Shoot from Distance (preferred moves) from CM.


Here are some important information for this tactic:

- Inside forward : right preferred foot

- right side striker : right preferred foot.

- The side striker should be fast. (I recommend he has at least 15 pace)

- Center striker should have good off the ball and finishing. If he is fast, it would be better.

- If all strikers and defenders are tall (taller than 190 cm), you can see a lot of headers and a lot of goals at corner kick chance and cross chance.

- Playing with the players having high physical condition(stamina) since this tactic requires player to run a lot.

- This tactic requires WB and center midfielders to spend their stamina a lot, so it would be better to substitute those position players at around 75 min. However, if there are some players in very low rating at the match, it would be better to substitute them first at around 60 min.



Important abilities for each role :
Using all players having good speed and pass abilities show better performance.

- Side striker (AF) and Inside forward: pace, acceleration, pass, cross, finish, balance, height (if higher than 190cm, you can get a lot of header goals)

- Center striker (AF) : finishing, off the ball, speed, heading, jumping, strength, balance, height (if higher than 190cm, you can get a lot of header goals)

- MEZ : pass, vision, off the ball, work rate, stamina, remove Shoot from Distance (preferred moves)

- BWM : pass, tackle, mark, positioning, work rate, stamina, team work,
remove Shoot from Distance (preferred moves)

- Ball playing defender : tackle, mark, positioning, pass, speed, jump, heading (if higher than 190cm, you can get a lof of goals at corner kick)

- Wingback : tackle, work rate, stamina, pass, cross



Red card:
If you need to attack, you could pull BWM or MEZ out.
If you need to defense, you could pull Inside forward or side striker out.It would be much better to change 'tackle harder' to 'ease off tackle' when getting yellow card so that you could avoid the Red card.



Opposition Instruction:
There is no OI. Do not let your assistant coach to deal with it.



Training and Briefing:
Let assistant coach to do. If you want to do your self, you can train your player for the same role of the tactic.

I give staffs almost all permissions to do.
If you manage the team having no Football Director, you could use Owner to do the parts.
Most owners have good abilities of buying player and business.
Here is the example of my step responsibility. You could refer to it.
View attachment 48680 View attachment 48679



As you guys know, the management is also an important part especially when you manage minor or low predicted team.
Here is some tips for management:

1. After game starts, check your players who don't speak the language of your league.
Right click players' name, and go to training, and then you can see who cannot speak the language.
Send them intensive language course.
Communication between team members is very important since it can affect the result a lot.

2. set friendly match with very small reputation team as many as possible when you do not have any match in a week or during international matches or before new season starts. So that your players can be familiar with the tactic quickly.
You can score a lot with the match with very small reputation team.
It also help your rotation members keep their match sharpness well and help all your members' morale keep better than superb. Keeping Good Morality is very very important.

3. Do not complement your players frequently.
Complement make your players lazy, which results in bad result.
In the match or after match, do not complement a lot. You should criticize players in the match even though you are 2 or 3 points ahead. When you win, you should select 'do not get complacent' or 'I am far from please ...'
Only players who over 9 average rating in the last match will be complemented by individual speak after the match. Keeping Good Morality is very very important.

4. Try to do rotation especially having a match at cup match.
There is 'fatigue' in Fm, which is hidden ability.
Users cannot see this, but some of skins show this.
If you give some rest of training to some players getting tired just after a match depending on the 'fatigue', you could always use your best members every match, and you can get the best performance from them.


5. In the game, you can shout your players every 10 min.
When you score or concede, you can shout again regardless of spending 10 min.
Shouting affects the result a lot, so you should shout in the game.
When you concede, select push forward or demand more.
Then you could see your team score very quickly.
Here is the effect of shouts;
Encourage: increase players' morale
Calm Down: decrease tackle, decrease possession
Get Creative: increase movement freedom, increase mistake
Concentrate: increase concentration and tension
Show Some Passion: increase tackle and pressure, but spend more physical condition and increase the danger of injury
No Pressure: decrease tension and focus on the match
Tighten Up: increase defense and pressure, but increase tension and fatigue
Push Forward: increase attack, but be vulnerable to counter attack and players will not follow the tactic strictly
Demand More: increase focus on the match, but spend more physical condition and increase the dander of injury
Praise: do not use this.

If you want an example of the management, you could refer to #403 in 41 thread on Vocal 523.



Here are some test results with Huddersfield expected the last, 20th in EPL.
View attachment 48805
I think the Good tactic is the tactic giving your weakest team wins with high percentage when you repeat the same match even though apponent is one of big clubs.
Based on 18.3.3 update and game engine, the game result could be different a lot depending on the tactic familiarity of your team and players. So, increasing tactic familiarity is very very important.

View attachment 48804 View attachment 48803 View attachment 48802 View attachment 48801
Making green lines between your best players by using them frequently is important since your players' connection can increase.
As you can see, every players keep very good average rating and show good performance.

I hope you guys would get good result with this tactic!
Enjoy!
 
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how is this one better than Vocal V4? Is it scoring more goals, or more stable at the back?

i got your tac from korean site and tried a few game. I feel that V4 is better......and in fact i got more inconsistent result with this..but always try again later.


Let us know the difference as you know
 
how is this one better than Vocal V4? Is it scoring more goals, or more stable at the back?

i got your tac from korean site and tried a few game. I feel that V4 is better......and in fact i got more inconsistent result with this..but always try again later.


Let us know the difference as you know
This Vocal 5212 does not retain possession, but focus more on counter attack.
So the way of attack is different as I mentioned on the 1st thread.
Also inside forward can show the incredible performance so you could use a lot of good wingers without training them for striker position.
The most important thing is making your team and players' tactic familiarity full and making green lines between them.
After tactic familiarity is full, you can get much better result.

Based on my test with Huddersfield, GA and GF are very similar with 523 V4.
But I think this 5212 V1 is better to watch the fun of attack and score, and 523 V4 is better to stable at the back.
Thanks!
 
Did you also tried making with 2 IFs? Like a 523 Wide formation?
 
Great OP as always !

Can you please share which skin is that? Is that Ganzo or Gunzo (don't know which is correct). I downloaded once, but it was password protected.
 
understood


This Vocal 5212 does not retain possession, but focus more on counter attack.
So the way of attack is different as I mentioned on the 1st thread.
Also inside forward can show the incredible performance so you could use a lot of good wingers without training them for striker position.
The most important thing is making your team and players' tactic familiarity full and making green lines between them.
After tactic familiarity is full, you can get much better result.

Based on my test with Huddersfield, GA and GF are very similar with 523 V4.
But I think this 5212 V1 is better to watch the fun of attack and score, and 523 V4 is better to stable at the back.
Thanks!
 
Great OP as always !

Can you please share which skin is that? Is that Ganzo or Gunzo (don't know which is correct). I downloaded once, but it was password protected.
It is Gunzo skin.
The skin maker does not allow others to share his skin. He only allows users in FM nation to download and use it.
If you send me your email address via private message, I could explain how to see the website where the skin uploaded and get the password for it.
Thanks!
 
Here are some results of other users in FM nation.

With Arsenal, a user achieved 37 wins 1 draw in 38 games, and wins in EPL and Champions League.
With Fulham, a user promoted at the 1st season and win in EPL the next season.
 
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Here are some results of other users in FM nation.

With Arsenal, a user achieved 37 wins 1 draw in 38 games, and wins in EPL and Champions League.
With Fulham, a user promoted and win in EPL the next season.



do you have a player filters please ??
 
Training and Briefing:
Let assistant coach to do. If you want to do your self, you can train your player for the same role of the tactic.

I give staffs almost all permissions to do.
If you manage the team having no Football Director, you could use Owner to do the parts.
Most owners have good abilities of buying player and business.
Here is the example of my step responsibility. You could refer to it.
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we can not enlarge the images
 
do you have a player filters please ??
Thank you for your interest.
My motto is to make tactics that even the weakest team in a league can use to beat any team including big clubs.
So, my tactic does not require any specific abilities of players.
Only important thing is the speed for side striker and inside forward.
The faster they are, the better result you could get.
It would be also better for wingback and mid striker to fast.
For other positions, you can use any type of players.
Please check the important information and tips in red or green on the 1st thread.
Thanks!.
 
Training and Briefing:
Let assistant coach to do. If you want to do your self, you can train your player for the same role of the tactic.

I give staffs almost all permissions to do.
If you manage the team having no Football Director, you could use Owner to do the parts.
Most owners have good abilities of buying player and business.
Here is the example of my step responsibility. You could refer to it.
1164318d1528184095t-vocal-523_huddersfield-expected-20th-_ranked-1st-epl_scored-65-21-games-17.png
1164319d1528184114t-vocal-523_huddersfield-expected-20th-_ranked-1st-epl_scored-65-21-games-18.png


we can not enlarge the images
I just changed the image.
Thanks!
 
ok it's time to test it on Italian serie A whit Cagliari, lower team, media prediction 14th, but whit good young player, i want try my best whit this tactic...

what skin u use and where i can download it?
 
ok it's time to test it on Italian serie A whit Cagliari, lower team, media prediction 14th, but whit good young player, i want try my best whit this tactic...

what skin u use and where i can download it?
Thank you for your interest.
I hope you would get the best result with my tactic.

It is Gunzo skin, and you could find it here:
https://www.fmnation.net/skin18/20919190
To download it, you need to log in there, and need at least 200 experience on that site.
Just by posting and comment a little bit, you could get that exp. very easily.
Thanks.
 
Thank you for your interest.
I hope you would get the best result with my tactic.

It is Gunzo skin, and you could find it here:
https://www.fmnation.net/skin18/20919190
To download it, you need to log in there, and need at least 200 experience on that site.
Just by posting and comment a little bit, you could get that exp. very easily.
Thanks.

Thanks a lot, i'm sure i can get good result, and atm i working for get more young player, give at the chairman the responsability, and get one for now, also i try to sing up Abel hernandez free player, need some decent Forward, but don't have a big money so try to get player from free transfert.
 
Thanks a lot, i'm sure i can get good result, and atm i working for get more young player, give at the chairman the responsability, and get one for now, also i try to sing up Abel hernandez free player, need some decent Forward, but don't have a big money so try to get player from free transfert.
Sounds good plan.
Hope you get the satisfied result.
I am looking forward to your feedback.
Thanks!
 
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