[HELP] Inverted WB 3-4-3 Diamond

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Hello! I'm a returning player from FM 2012.
I've been playing PES since it's Winning Eleven series and throughout the years I have developed a formation and tactics that fit my playing style.
It's a tactic I came up with, which was heavily influenced by Guardiola.
The tactic I use is a in-between of Guardiola's MAN City tactics & Thiago Motta's 2-7-2 tactics.
Please help me recreate this tactic please as I am out of touch since FM12

My formation at first glance: A normal 4-3-3 system, however...

On the ball: Team plays high possession and high up the pitch same as Guardiola's team.
1) One of the two CB pushes up, joining the three MF & becomes a ball playing DMF, while the other CB stays behind similar to a Libero (Sweeper) role in a Catenaccio.

2) Both WB/FB become inverted so they tuck inside making the formation look like a 3 in the back with a DMF just in front. However, if the ball is on the WB side of play that wingback pushes high joining the winger.
3) One of the three MF becomes a AMC with two CMF behind, while the aforementioned CB becomes a DMF behind the two CMF.
4) The two wingers are extremely wide and the CF plays deeper role carrying off opposing CB.
So in possession it looks like a 3-4-3 diamond, but when one of the inverted WB/FBjoins the attack it becomes more of a 2-4-4 diamond.

Out of possession :
Extremely high pressing especially during opposition long-balls. If failing to win the ball back within seconds the formation resets to a 4-3-3

Is there anything I need to mention more? Please let me know
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Hi,
I found those images very interesting so I tried to create a tactic around them. But to the best of my knowledge, I do not think it is possible to do that in FM because:
-you can only have a Libero when you play with 3 CBs
-even with a CM on attack duty, he does not move centrally enough to allow even a DM on support duty to move up to that side. A segundo volunte could have worked but this position is available only with 2 CDMs.

So overall it is very difficult or maybe impossible to have that tactic in FM. Nevertheless, I tried to replicate that in-possession shape and I tried it in the game (just one game though so I am not confident about the reliability of the tactic) I won 4-0 against Leicester using my current Man Utd team with a 62% possession.
I use pressing traps (close down FBs and WBs and force them to play centrally where I have lots of players, close down CMs, close down AML/R and force them to go wide...).

Do not be afraid to change the mentality (towards lower rank preferably since you are playing with virtually 1 CB.

Feel free to try it and please let me know the kind of result you have.
 
Hi,
I found those images very interesting so I tried to create a tactic around them. But to the best of my knowledge, I do not think it is possible to do that in FM because:
-you can only have a Libero when you play with 3 CBs
-even with a CM on attack duty, he does not move centrally enough to allow even a DM on support duty to move up to that side. A segundo volunte could have worked but this position is available only with 2 CDMs.

So overall it is very difficult or maybe impossible to have that tactic in FM. Nevertheless, I tried to replicate that in-possession shape and I tried it in the game (just one game though so I am not confident about the reliability of the tactic) I won 4-0 against Leicester using my current Man Utd team with a 62% possession.
I use pressing traps (close down FBs and WBs and force them to play centrally where I have lots of players, close down CMs, close down AML/R and force them to go wide...).

Do not be afraid to change the mentality (towards lower rank preferably since you are playing with virtually 1 CB.

Feel free to try it and please let me know the kind of result you have.


Wow thanks! Will try it out
 
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