rammie2011

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Hi everyone... we are just a few months away from FM15... im still struggling with FM14 arghhhh! On previous patches ive done well, found a tactic that suits me and the way I want to play. Tbh im clueless at making tactics so don't bother anymore. On latest patch I have been struggling thruout and cannot wind a tactic that works for me. I have tested many 442 tactics but none fit the bill... normally I go for jassars tactics, but the 442 ones he has haven't worked for me, the modern warfare one and bomb, neither unfortunately worked, hope you guys can post me some 442 tactics that you have had success with, im guna b Liverpool when I start new save, and these are the criteria im looking for...
1) two out and out attacking wingers
2) a BWM and the other centre mid being support or attack playmaker of some description
3) strikers both on attack poacher or CF or AF roles

Hopefully you guys can help me and get me enjoying FM again, thanks in advance
 
--------CF/AF/TM--------
-w-------AM/AP(A)-----W
--------DLP(D)/CM(D)--BWM(S)
--FB(S)----CD(D)--cd(D)--FB(A)
 
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Its not a beast its just a solid Very Rigid (RGA and F9 doing most of the job so they should be your best players plus some nive backups) 4-4-2.

You can try it. Just add another tactic exactly the same but with Hassle On for times you feel you are pressed too much and another with Hassle and Attacking Mentality for occasions you need desperatelly a goal.

Give it a try if you want, its working very good for me for last 30 matches.

Just beat Juventus away with my Panathinaikos side in my third year.
 
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Its not a beast its just a solid Very Rigid (RGA and F9 doing most of the job so they should be your best players plus some nive backups) 4-4-2.

You can try it. Just add another tactic exactly the same but with Hassle On for times you feel you are pressed too much and another with Hassle and Attacking Mentality for occasions you need desperatelly a goal.

Give it a try if you want, its working very good for me for last 30 matches.

Just beat Juventus away with my Panathinaikos side in my third year.

Cheers mate will give it a whirl in morning
 
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Its not a beast its just a solid Very Rigid (RGA and F9 doing most of the job so they should be your best players plus some nive backups) 4-4-2.

You can try it. Just add another tactic exactly the same but with Hassle On for times you feel you are pressed too much and another with Hassle and Attacking Mentality for occasions you need desperatelly a goal.

Give it a try if you want, its working very good for me for last 30 matches.

Just beat Juventus away with my Panathinaikos side in my third year.

looks good, only I would use wide mid on left wing....
 
If you don't want to play defensively, and have a weak club, you might want to play more agressively. I just made this and only tested it against my youth team and won 7-1. So perhaps you can try it.

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Djibril, have you given thought about using a sk and bpd's? Might generate more counter attacks?
 
Yes but my keeper and Cds arent good with the ball so didnt try it.

Question : When i created the tactic i had in mind choosing roles that players will position themselfes like that:

FB--------AF
------F9---------W
W--------RGA
------A----------FB
-----CD--CD-------

Or sonething like that. I hope you understand what i mean

I see in your tactic you do the opposite. For example you choose the highest pressing CD to be in the same side with the lowest press/position MC.

I would make the opposite having in mind they will be in the field like that :

---------------BBM
------DLP
---------------stopper
------cover

What is your thinking choosing this :

---------------BBM
-----DLP
-----stopper
---------------cover

...Is my way of thinking is correct?

I am asking you, i am not saying i am right, i really enjoy your threads and consider myself **** in tactics
 
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you can try this tactic. Training Balanced/attacking movement. But you can edit suit opposition
 
Yes but my keeper and Cds arent good with the ball so didnt try it.

Question : When i created the tactic i had in mind choosing roles that players will position themselfes like that:

FB--------AF
------F9---------W
W--------RGA
------A----------FB
-----CD--CD-------

Or sonething like that. I hope you understand what i mean

I see in your tactic you do the opposite. For example you choose the highest pressing CD to be in the same side with the lowest press/position MC.

I would make the opposite having in mind they will be in the field like that :

---------------BBM
------DLP
---------------stopper
------cover

What is your thinking choosing this :

---------------BBM
-----DLP
-----stopper
---------------cover

...Is my way of thinking is correct?

I am asking you, i am not saying i am right, i really enjoy your threads and consider myself **** in tactics

Well, I've put stopper next to attacking fullback to close down empty space fullback leaves when goes forward, so he will more likely be close to left sideline. And my wide mid will cross to box to box, to far post, and my right winger will cross to adv forward, also to far post. I could perhaps change dlpd and box to box, but then....****....you're right...I just need to change crossing instructions, and switch box to box and dlpd....thanks dude...
 
Do you really think it makes a difference or the stopper cover roles apply in small spaces so it doesnt really matter?

I had this question long time. Seen other tactics created here using my theory and others yours. All succesfull. So probably doesnt matter:)
 
Do you really think it makes a difference or the stopper cover roles apply in small spaces so it doesnt really matter?

I had this question long time. Seen other tactics created here using my theory and others yours. All succesfull. So probably doesnt matter:)

My guess is it works best with offside trap. Otherwise you either need a stopper next to him or a more defensive DM. Space needs to be closed down properly, especially if you are defending and under pressure..

Btw, I see you use anchor man. Perhaps a defensive mid on defend would be better? He has high closing down, but isn't as agressive as bwmd.
 
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you can try this tactic. Training Balanced/attacking movement. But you can edit suit opposition
Aup mate... tried your tactic yesterday... didnt have much success unfortunately... can I change individual player roles ie targrt man to AF attack without it affecting the tactic much?
 
Aup mate... tried your tactic yesterday... didnt have much success unfortunately... can I change individual player roles ie targrt man to AF attack without it affecting the tactic much?
yes you can forgot to mention those roles are due to the players i have. I have target men thats why. You can tweak to suit your players.
 
yes you can forgot to mention those roles are due to the players i have. I have target men thats why. You can tweak to suit your players.

Cheers mate, ive changed tm to CF attack and left winger and right back to attack aswell... will let u know how it goes
 
My guess is it works best with offside trap. Otherwise you either need a stopper next to him or a more defensive DM. Space needs to be closed down properly, especially if you are defending and under pressure..

Btw, I see you use anchor man. Perhaps a defensive mid on defend would be better? He has high closing down, but isn't as agressive as bwmd.

I dont watch games, i dont have the time to do so, so i count on "theories" :)

My theory here is :

I choose Anchor man because i hate OIs, and i just want any opponents AMC to be closed down.
I dont choose BWM because they get a lot of cards.
I dont use a DM because i play Very Rigid and A is a specialist role :)

I have no idea again if those things do really a difference.

Just draw Celtic home (they are fantastic, they had 7 wins in a row in CL play offs/summer knockouts + a win against Shalke in first group game, wihout conceeding a single goal. They have Ochoa, Sigporsson and Stanciu) 0-0.

8 games now without conceeding a single goal, including matches against Celtic, Olympiakos and Juventus.

First time i ve tryied choosing as Match preperation what my Scout (i have one with 19 JA/JP and 16 Tactical Knoweldge) said. Def Set Pieces. Good thing that after the game the Match Preparation returns to your choise (i have teamwork).

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Park the Tank + 1

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Aup mate... tried your tactic yesterday... didnt have much success unfortunately... can I change individual player roles ie targrt man to AF attack without it affecting the tactic much?

Just somethings i want to tell you because i share your frustration.

No matter what tactic you will try (jassars, mine, this guy you did) :

1. Press Conferances play a huge role. You either do it yourself and correct, or if you let your assistant do, he must have great Man Managment/Motivation/Discipline and appropriate Personallity. Mine is Unflappable and most of the times he says what i would say.

2. Team talks are crucial too. You might seen that in some games were you did nothing in the first half, and when you aggressively said that you are not happy, players were fired up in the second half no matter what tactic you were using.
Some nice analysis here : http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/shar...talk-strategy-unusual-formations-artisan.html

3. PPMs are crucial too. For example i play with two DMs. If they both have the "Going forward PPM" my tactic wont work as i want.

4. Full backs MUST have good positioning,marking,tackling. In a 4-4-2 all players exept the 2 front must have descent defensive attributes too, if you want to suceed. The only way they dont have to, is if the Wingers and one of the MCs are top class players so you should dominate every single match you play and defend less.
 
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