Potential Ability Increasing

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I've heard rumors of PA increasing/decreasing overtime now. Plan is to sim a season tonight and check the PAs before and after to see if there's any changes.

Has anyone else noticed this yet and it would make sense since it was a feature a lot of the community wanted.
 
PA cannot increase. It's his potential - the best he can ever be. It can decrease, but it is rare and only when player picks a very serious injury.
 
A players PA is a fixed value; the maximum he can achieve. He may not reach it.
A scout/coaches opinion of what his potential is.... That fluctuates as often as a pundit's opinion of Chelsea's top 4 chances.
 
I thought as much was just hopeful and would make it a lot more interesting for finding youngsters.
 
Herowolf said:
I thought as much was just hopeful and would make it a lot more interesting for finding youngsters.
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PA changing or not changing will not make it more or less interesting.

PPA (Perceived Potential Ability) can and does change as it is just a staff member's opinion and they can be wrong. THAT makes it interesting.
 
WJ said:
PA changing or not changing will not make it more or less interesting.

PPA (Perceived Potential Ability) can and does change as it is just a staff member's opinion and they can be wrong. THAT makes it interesting.
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Yeah, staff lie annoyingly.

In terms of interesting, I just meant them actually changing the PA itself. Some players have all the potential in the world but fail to live up to, and some players work hard and keep getting better and better.

Like I could a player winning PotM / other awards as a way for their PA to increase. Plus I could imagine SI sneaking in a few extra features like that.
 
Staff don't lie. Staff can just be wrong in their judgement.

By its very definition you can't exceed your potential. It is what it is.
 
By the way, if a player does something 'out of the ordinary' he can get a nice CA boost. Not quite the same, but still interesting.
 
As long as you don't look around the internet/editors for PAs, it's perfectly reasonable for it to stay consistent. You have no way of knowing a player PA's from the game itself, only your scout's opinion which is highly unreliable. It only gets boring once you check out PAs in the internet and you already know who the biggest talents are. I'm not judging, you can do what you like. But the game is designed assuming you don't know any PAs ever.
 
WJ said:
PA cannot increase. It's his potential - the best he can ever be. It can decrease, but it is rare and only when player picks a very serious injury.
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Well, it would be easily explained that potential could increase. A very good example is Ødegaard at Real Madrid. He was 15 when he made his senior debut in Norway, in a club with lacklustre training facilities compared to mega clubs abroad. Still so young when he signed that it makes sense if it has affected his maximum potential.
 
Opacus said:
Well, it would be easily explained that potential could increase. A very good example is Ødegaard at Real Madrid. He was 15 when he made his senior debut in Norway, in a club with lacklustre training facilities compared to mega clubs abroad. Still so young when he signed that it makes sense if it has affected his maximum potential.
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That makes no sense. All it meant for Odegaard is that with the better facilities and coaches, he's much more likely to reach the potential he always had. So it means he'll better develop his CA.
 
Potential of any human/living creature shouldn't be static though as we constantly learn, grow and develop new skills. Especially if the players haven't even reached their twenties.

Perfect examples are Vardy and Lambert. No one thought they had the potential to be premiership strikers but they exceeded that potential.
 
WJ said:
That's CA.
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No not really, if we are talking in real world terms then people all having a static PA makes zero sense, also in game terms its an outdated model and has been in need of a overhaul in such a long time. If the PA was accurate then they would not fluctuate from year to year.
 
I can understand it would be a pain to implement though. The only reason I started this thread as a few people in the community reported instances of PA changing so wasn't sure if they were just going crazy or SI snuck one in.
 
epic terrorist said:
No not really, if we are talking in real world terms then people all having a static PA makes zero sense
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In what way? You have limits. If you apply yourself you can improve, but you still have limits.
 
WJ said:
In what way? You have limits. If you apply yourself you can improve, but you still have limits.
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What limits? How am I limited? Who decids these arbituary limits? How do you quantify a persons ability? How do you quantify a persons potential?
 
epic terrorist said:
What limits? How am I limited? Who decids these arbituary limits? How do you quantify a persons ability? How do you quantify a persons potential?
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Limits. Physical/mental/talent limits. If we weren't limited in some way, EVERY Barcelona/Madrid player would be Messi/Ronaldo. Why aren't they?

I have a maths brain. I'm not artistic. I never have (and I've tried) so my PA there is low. My brain isn't developed in that way.
 
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