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Disadvantaged user team and stupid scripts

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Hi guys,
i have a few points to discuss with you. I am playing FM (or CM) from 00/01, so I am no newbie here. But in last years a have big problem with "luck" or "prepossession against user" in the game. Almost in every new game I play I feel very disadvantaged by the fact I am user (and not just the AI team). For example, I am playing Nottingham Forest (i am 2-3 placed), my next fixture is Preston (last place, one point after 13 games and pooooor morale). Every team beats them 3 or 4 : 0, but when they play at my stadium, they magicaly redeem themselfs and beat me. This happens to me almost in every new game again and again (it's not tactics, it's not training, it's not team talks, I am afraid it's because of user team - ...) Absurd is, that they don't beat me with luck, but it is open game and sometimes they don't give me at least one chance to score and they destroy my team's morale of course..

But to the next point. In any case I managed to get promoted with Forest and now I am playing my first season in PL. It's tough, I am on the 18th place and hardly winning, but I expected this.. What really makes me angry is, that when I (user team) after 6 matches without win (chelsea, liverpool, tottenham, man city....) play Bolton at home, really dominating first half, score a goal and then after two minutes, my player is sent off (without agressive team or player tackling), I adjust my tactics carefully, then they score a header from the set piece after the red faul and in the second half (after well thinked team talk) my team can't get out of their half (that's quite normal) BUT they score 4 next goals and I loose 1:5 at home.. so some players are set to commit suicide. And this happens to me almost every time.. when there is no red card, there is injury of one or two important players or injury when I have all my subs used and my favourite penalties of course (this season I never had one, but it's about 6 against my team - fauls from different players with agressivity from 5-15) When I finally get a win from a match like this (fortunate win) all my relegation enemies win (at arsneal, man utd and so on). And again case with loosing teams - this time it's burnley (3 points after 17 games), but when they play at my stadium they easily get a draw...I don't believe in god and **** (6) I've tried everything.... So please, tell me.. is that normal?? Thanks fellas..
 
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I know it sounds crazy and I am sorry for my english, but that's the way it works for me.. of course I downloaded guide for dummies - didn't help ;)
 
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No the game is not making you disadvantaged. You won promotion so you have nothing to complain about. Sometimes teams get beaten by other teams that they have beaten it is football. It isnt that unlikely that you get thrashed when a player gets sent off.
 
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I know what do you want to say, I really can lose, believe me, I work as a football commentator on tv in czeck rep and i "know" football.. I am just concerned by absurdity of the results in the game.. what i wrote just happens to me everytime! it's not just a accident :)
 
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note: my player is sent off or injured everytime I am winning the game :) I just want to say that i think the AI team is prepared or motivated for the match against USER differently than against other AI teams..
 
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i think its

A) u suck :p

B) just coincidence

C) ur game is f**ked up
 
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This sorta happened to my Juve as well.
I can beat any other team with consistency, yet i just can't seem to beat PARMA on home or away. Met them 4 games, won only once with a 1-0 scoreline and drew the others. Would create LOADS of chances but magically on that day, Dzeko/Amauri just won't score.
 
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He's just absolutely right. I play Stoke City at home and in the same match my players miss around 5 or 6 extremely easy goal chances, but Kenwyne Jones seems to be the best striker in the world and scores 3 unbelievable goals. Just saying, I have Torres, Luis Suárez and Tévez up front, so it's DEFINITELY not a lack of good strikers. By the way, that happens in every single game. In real life, Torres misses one easy chance out of 30, if he's in a bad form.

EDIT: And I have already installed the patch.
 
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this happened to me on 09 and 10 and 11 i think it could be the bogey team factor you know just one random team that your team can never score or win against bit like southampton for man ure when matt le tissier was there i remember them beating man ure a few times remember when fergie blamed the grey shirts that was hilarious
 
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Thanks guys, I am glad that I am not alone in this..
 
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This is the problem with some people playing the game.

You guys think that your some Sir Alex Ferguson so whenever you lose a game you say that the game is against you. Maybe the teams tactics you were facing played against the disadvantages of your teams tactics.

Maybe ditch is idea that your a managing god and try some new tactics and approaches.
 
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Calm down man, I am playing this for 10 years a I never thought I am master in it, but I have enough experience to think like that.. I have many successes and many bad tryouts, but this met me in every game regardless of tactics, players, teams, competitions... I am not playing the game because of winning, I am playing it because I like it.. but I don't like it, when it is absurd.. I can accept loosing 1:3 in FA cup with Colchester when I am playing Liverpool.. that can happen.. but I can't accept when I loose this 1:7 when I am second in PL and Colchester is on 11 match winless streak and hasn't scored five matches.. Do you really think that algorithms in the game are same when playing two AI teams against each othter and when playing you?
 
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yes they are. Fact: the ME does not, and can not tell the difference between user and AI
 
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this happened to me on 09 and 10 and 11 i think it could be the bogey team factor you know just one random team that your team can never score or win against bit like southampton for man ure when matt le tissier was there i remember them beating man ure a few times remember when fergie blamed the grey shirts that was hilarious
He's just absolutely right. I play Stoke City at home and in the same match my players miss around 5 or 6 extremely easy goal chances, but Kenwyne Jones seems to be the best striker in the world and scores 3 unbelievable goals. Just saying, I have Torres, Luis Suárez and Tévez up front, so it's DEFINITELY not a lack of good strikers. By the way, that happens in every single game. In real life, Torres misses one easy chance out of 30, if he's in a bad form.

EDIT: And I have already installed the patch.
Epic terrorist.... I agree with the bogey team thing, although I do believe that hoodoo's can be broken, for instance 1st season as celtic, playing really well, went on to win the league, but every time a played st johnstone, they beat me .. no sorry thrashed me 3 or 4 nil. however last time a played them in first season, was getting beat 3-0 at half time and was thinking here we go again.... Gave them a bollocking at half time, made two crucial subs and came back and pumped them 5-3.... so dont fear the reaper when it comes to these bogey teams, you just have to turn it around.
As for ManuelZk...... Torres missing only one easy chance out of 30.... Have you been living under a rock for 12 months..... the guy hasnt been able to hit a cows **** wit a shovel.
 
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Hey mate I think your players are getting complacent. So in pre-match conferences you could say that the next game is not an easy one and also use motivating team-talks. If you are winning at half-time, using dont get careless really helps
 
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Again today.. I was playing West Brom with my Nottingam Forest side.. in 60. minute I was 3-0 up, when Gonzalo Jara was sent off.. then !in ten men! WBA magically redeem themselfs and scored two goals and almost equalised in the injury time.. but when my team plays with one men sent off, they're trashed as a garbage by 4 goals.. a don't tell me that this happens somtemis.. yes, it does.. in reality.. but almost in every game in FM.
 
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I think you have to take some of the blame there, whether you want to or not..

I had 2 players sent off at the same time against Roma when my Sampdoria team were 2-1 up, they then absolutely mauled us other than being able to get a clear chance of goal for the remainder of the game and got a deflected last minute, last kick of the game equaliser... I was pretty pleased :D

Sending off's seem to galvanise a team just like in real-life. e.g. In the same Sampdoria save, Juventus (I think it was) had a player sent off early doors and although we battered the **** out of their goal we just couldn't score, they got a breakaway and scored... seems pretty realistic to me...
 
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I know what are you trying to say.. of course, it can happen, i wrote before.. but in FM it is no advantage to play against 10 men in 60%... I wasnt playing FM so long, I wouldn't bother you with this..
 
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