Current ability, potential ability, and how good a player can become.

[craiigman]

Although I understand the basics of this topic, I am also a little unsure on a few things and would like some clarification on a few things, for you you to tell me if I am wrong.

So both CA (current ability) and PA (potential ability) are out of 200, or for PA it can be a minus number.

In terms of ranking it should roughly follow like this:

180-200 - 5 star
170-180 - 4 1/2 star
160-170 - 4 star
150-160 - 3 1/2 star
140-150 - 3 star
100-140 - 2 1/2 star
and then lower is lower.

Or that is roughly what it is, for the top teams anyway. And then the minus numbers in PA are ranked as follows:

0 = 1-200
-1 = 1-30
-2 = 10-40
-3 = 30-60
-4 = 50-80
-5 = 70-100
-6 = 90-120
-7 = 110-140
-8 = 130-160
-9 = 150-180
-10 = 170-200

So from what I have been told, Players who have a number between 1-200 will always reach that. Players with a minus will reach between the numbers above.

By question is, is it always? I've been playing around with the in game editor just to see what happens and I have a player 195 PA. I've played a whole season with him and his stats barely went up. Which is why I am questioning this.

Is it possible that players who have a high PA will not actually reach that level? I've also read that players only really develop up until 21. Which I can't see being true since players prime age is usually mid to late 20's.

So my 195 PA player, even though he is played often, and I give him training etc, may never even get close? Does the CA effect this at all? What is the deciding factor whether or not a player becomes as good as they can be?

I mean the two best young CB's (arguably) on the game Balanta and Varane have PA of 176 and 175 (according to my current save). And Balanta for me has gone up quite a lot, but the guy I set to 195 has barely improved.

This is only on a test save, I am trying to work out they CA and PA as much as I can, but with a whole season set to 195 PA and not to have changed much makes me think that either the in game editor change does nothing or that what I have been lead to believe may not be true.

 

[bcfc1]

Just because someone has a high potential ability rating it doesn't mean they will always reach it. There was a player on my game who had a potential rating of 200 but he spent his career playing for teams like Slavia Prague and FC Copenhagen and the highest his current ability ever got to was around 120. All the potential ability shows is how good they could be with the right coaching, facilities and match time.

 

[TJD07]

They all have a chance to reach their PA, it depends a lot on the individuals professionalism, ambition and playing time mostly.

Good facilities, staff and a bit of luck with injuries helps out too mind.

 

[Tezzz]

Yeah I've found that injures have a major effect on PA.

If you want to really test out your guys PA then make sure you set;
- Injury Proneness to 1
- Determination to 20
- Ambition to 20

That is off the top of my head but I'm sure others will add to it. Good luck.

 

[jack1077]

" I've also read that players only really develop up until 21. Which I can't see being true since players prime age is usually mid to late 20's."

This isn't true. Look at the become a legend thread and the age at of the players (25) and they are still developing.

 

[Dalnath]

" I've also read that players only really develop up until 21. Which I can't see being true since players prime age is usually mid to late 20's."

This isn't true. Look at the become a legend thread and the age at of the players (25) and they are still developing.

I've found players at that age will only continue to develop well if they're getting regular first team football, otherwise they kind of stagnate and not grow much.

 

[iamauser]

The bit to do with star rating isn't right. Star rating all depends on the quality of your team.

 

[Sherkey]

Players do tend to develop later on too, but don't do so explosively. Until the early 20s, their growth can suddenly explode. Also, earlier on, their physicals will develop a lot. Later on, they generally develop their mental and technique stats. Not always the case, but consider it a trend.

Also, just their PA being high won't matter as much. Their Determination, Professionalism, Ambition also count, and sometimes so does their Adaptability. There are so many instances of players not reaching their potential IRL too..

 

[TJD07]

Yeah I've found that injures have a major effect on PA.

If you want to really test out your guys PA then make sure you set;
- Injury Proneness to 1
- Determination to 20
- Ambition to 20

That is off the top of my head but I'm sure others will add to it. Good luck.

Protip, determination has nothing to do with how well a player develops, it's mostly professionalism in terms of attributes.

 

[Sherkey]

Protip, determination has nothing to do with how well a player develops, it's mostly professionalism in terms of attributes.

I've found determination affects training to an extent, which also affects his development. A driven player is likely to take to high training well, and develops better.

 

[TJD07]

I've found determination affects training to an extent, which also affects his development. A driven player is likely to take to high training well, and develops better.

There have been a few well planned out tests done, both on determination and work rate and how they affect a players development. Both make little to no real difference.


That's not to say determination isn't important mind, just people overestimate it's importance at times.

 

[Crane]

Aye, professionalism and ambition are the only attributes which effect how quickly a player develops.

 

[craiigman]

There have been a few well planned out tests done, both on determination and work rate and how they affect a players development. Both make little to no real difference.


That's not to say determination isn't important mind, just people overestimate it's importance at times.

Do you have a link to those? Be interesting to read, for me anyway.