cheers for the help Ben , i have now finished all my changes to the english league and database. 100% validated an game run no problems. So i loaded the 12.2 database, and then merged my engliah league database with it, then choose wales nation rules. just as a test i made no changes just saved it as a new editor data file. then i ran the game and selected both files. however there was a ! in a triangle next to england, and england was unselectable. when i hover the mouse over the ! i did not the an explantion of the problem, just a black rectangle in the corner. but if i select either file on their own they work. i cant see why they dont work together!